From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/20] KVM: selftests: Collect *all* dirty entries in each dirty_log_test iteration
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:01:32 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <680a0b7b95b9300d2972246fbfd93f000ce0c0be.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93e571e9-5539-454f-9335-6de8339ffd8b@redhat.com>
On Thu, 2024-12-19 at 13:55 +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 12/19/24 03:13, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2024, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > While this patch might improve coverage for this particular case,
> > > I think that this patch will make the test to be much more deterministic,
> >
> > The verification will be more deterministic, but the actual testcase itself is
> > just as random as it was before.
>
> Based on my recollection of designing this thing with Peter, I can
> "confirm" that there was no particular intention of making the
> verification more random.
>
> > > and thus have less chance of catching various races in the kernel that can happen.
> > >
> > > In fact in my option I prefer moving this test in other direction by
> > > verifying dirty ring while the *vCPU runs* as well, in other words, not
> > > stopping the vCPU at all unless its dirty ring is full.
> >
> > But letting the vCPU-under-test keep changing the memory while it's being validated
> > would add significant complexity, without any benefit insofar as I can see. As
> > evidenced by the bug the current approach can't detect, heavily stressing the
> > system is meaningless if it's impossible to separate the signal from the noise.
>
> Yes, I agree.
>
> Paolo
>
In this case I don't have any objections.
Best regards,
Maxim Levitsky
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-19 15:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-14 1:07 [PATCH 00/20] KVM: selftests: Fixes and cleanups for dirty_log_test Sean Christopherson
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 01/20] KVM: selftests: Support multiple write retires in dirty_log_test Sean Christopherson
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 02/20] KVM: selftests: Sync dirty_log_test iteration to guest *before* resuming Sean Christopherson
2024-12-17 23:58 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-18 21:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-19 15:11 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 03/20] KVM: selftests: Drop signal/kick from dirty ring testcase Sean Christopherson
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 04/20] KVM: selftests: Drop stale srandom() initialization from dirty_log_test Sean Christopherson
2024-12-17 23:59 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 05/20] KVM: selftests: Precisely track number of dirty/clear pages for each iteration Sean Christopherson
2024-12-17 23:59 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-18 21:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 06/20] KVM: selftests: Read per-page value into local var when verifying dirty_log_test Sean Christopherson
2024-12-17 23:59 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 07/20] KVM: selftests: Continuously reap dirty ring while vCPU is running Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-19 1:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 08/20] KVM: selftests: Limit dirty_log_test's s390x workaround to s390x Sean Christopherson
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 09/20] KVM: selftests: Honor "stop" request in dirty ring test Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-19 2:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-19 15:07 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-19 15:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-19 15:57 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 10/20] KVM: selftests: Keep dirty_log_test vCPU in guest until it needs to stop Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:01 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-19 15:59 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 11/20] KVM: selftests: Post to sem_vcpu_stop if and only if vcpu_stop is true Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:01 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 12/20] KVM: selftests: Use continue to handle all "pass" scenarios in dirty_log_test Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:01 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 13/20] KVM: selftests: Print (previous) last_page on dirty page value mismatch Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:01 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 14/20] KVM: selftests: Collect *all* dirty entries in each dirty_log_test iteration Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:02 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-19 2:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-19 12:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-12-19 15:01 ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 15/20] KVM: sefltests: Verify value of dirty_log_test last page isn't bogus Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:02 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 16/20] KVM: selftests: Ensure guest writes min number of pages in dirty_log_test Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:02 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 17/20] KVM: selftests: Tighten checks around prev iter's last dirty page in ring Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:03 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 18/20] KVM: selftests: Set per-iteration variables at the start of each iteration Sean Christopherson
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 19/20] KVM: selftests: Fix an off-by-one in the number of dirty_log_test iterations Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:03 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-12-14 1:07 ` [PATCH 20/20] KVM: selftests: Allow running a single iteration of dirty_log_test Sean Christopherson
2024-12-18 0:03 ` Maxim Levitsky
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