From: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
To: Edward Cree <ecree@solarflare.com>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Static calls
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:45:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6C3BA76B-6C03-470E-91DB-3228A912F315@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <406f3f88-026c-f611-3b47-6dee3c6bbb0b@solarflare.com>
> On Dec 12, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Edward Cree <ecree@solarflare.com> wrote:
>
> On 12/12/18 21:15, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Edward Cree <ecree@solarflare.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> AIUI the outline version uses a tail-call (i.e. jmpq *target) rather than an
>>> additional call and ret. So I wouldn't expect it to be too expensive.
>>> More to the point, it seems like it's easier to get right than the inline
>>> version, and if we get the inline version working later we can introduce it
>>> without any API change, much as Josh's existing patches have both versions
>>> behind a Kconfig switch.
>> I see. For my outlined blocks I used the opposite approach - a call followed
>> by jmp
> That's what Josh did too. I.e. caller calls the trampoline, which jmps to the
> callee; later it rets, taking it back to the caller. Perhaps I wasn't clear.
> The point is that there's still only one call and one ret.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
>
>>> I was working on the assumption that it would be opt-in, wrapping a macro
>>> around indirect calls that are known to have a fairly small number of hot
>>> targets. There are plenty of indirect calls in the kernel that are only
>>> called once in a blue moon, e.g. in control-plane operations like ethtool;
>>> we don't really need to bulk up .text with trampolines for all of them.
>> On the other hand, I’m not sure the static_call interface is so intuitive.
>> And extending it into “dynamic_call” might be even worse. As I initially
>> used an opt-in approach, I can tell you that it was very exhausting.
> Well, if it's done with a gcc plugin after all, then it wouldn't be too hard
> to make it opt-out.
> One advantage of the explicit opt-in dynamic_call, though, which can be seen
> in my patch is that multiple call sites can share the same learning-state,
> if they're expected to call the same set of functions. An opt-out approach
> would automatically give each indirect call statement its own individual BTB.
> Either way, I think the question is orthogonal to what the trampolines
> themselves look like (and even to the inline vs outline question).
Not entirely. If the mechanism is opt-out and outlined, and especially if it
also supports multiple targets, you may not want to allocate all the memory
for them during build-time, and instead use module memory to allocate them
dynamically (that’s what we did).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-12 21:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-26 13:54 Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 13:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] compiler.h: Make __ADDRESSABLE() symbol truly unique Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-27 8:49 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-26 13:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] static_call: Add static call infrastructure Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 13:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] x86/static_call: Add out-of-line static call implementation Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 15:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 16:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-26 13:55 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] x86/static_call: Add inline static call implementation for x86-64 Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 16:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 17:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 17:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 20:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 20:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 21:26 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-27 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-27 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 6:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 9:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 13:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 13:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 14:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 14:42 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-29 16:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 16:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 16:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 22:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 22:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 22:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 22:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 22:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 17:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 17:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 17:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 18:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 16:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 17:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:35 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-29 17:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 17:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 17:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 18:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 18:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 18:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-10 23:58 ` Pavel Machek
2018-12-11 1:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 19:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 19:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 20:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 22:17 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 23:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-30 16:27 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-11 9:41 ` David Laight
2018-12-11 17:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-12 18:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-30 16:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-30 18:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-30 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-30 20:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-30 20:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 20:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-30 21:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 21:13 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-30 21:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 19:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 19:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 19:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 22:16 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-11-30 22:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 19:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 19:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 20:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 18:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 18:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 17:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-26 18:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-26 20:14 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-27 8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 16:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 16:11 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-26 16:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-26 16:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 16:44 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Static calls Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 20:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-26 22:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 22:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-04 23:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-04 23:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-05 15:04 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-05 23:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-07 16:06 ` Edward Cree
2018-12-07 16:49 ` Edward Cree
2018-12-11 18:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-12 5:59 ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-12 17:11 ` Edward Cree
2018-12-12 17:47 ` [RFC/WIP PATCH 0/2] dynamic calls Edward Cree
2018-12-12 17:50 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] static_call: fix out-of-line static call implementation Edward Cree
2018-12-12 17:52 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] net: core: rather hacky PoC implementation of dynamic calls Edward Cree
2018-12-12 18:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Static calls Nadav Amit
2018-12-12 18:33 ` Edward Cree
2018-12-12 21:15 ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-12 21:36 ` Edward Cree
2018-12-12 21:45 ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2018-12-10 23:57 ` Pavel Machek
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