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* Lunar Lake: silent fatal platform resets caused by idle-exit core hang
@ 2026-07-05 21:43 Polina Vishneva
  2026-07-08 21:44 ` Len Brown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Polina Vishneva @ 2026-07-05 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafael J. Wysocki, Artem Bityutskiy; +Cc: Len Brown, linux-pm, linux-kernel

Hello.

So, I've got frustrated enough with my system cold-resetting every few
days to try to debug the issue, with some success.

TL;DR: cold reset on the cpuidle exit path.

It's *probably* not actually a kernel bug, but I don't know any better
place to submit it (hoping that the Intel folks will take a look).

System:
- Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13 (21NS001ACD), BIOS N4BET75W (1.45).
- Intel Core Ultra 7 258V (Lunar Lake), microcode 0x126.
- Kernel 7.1.1, intel_idle in ACPI _CST mode.
- Reproduces even with intel_idle.max_cstate=2, so the enabled
  states are only POLL, C1_ACPI and C2_ACPI.

On boot after each crash, the kernel logs:

  BERT: [Hardware Error]: Skipped 1 error records

I pulled /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/data/BERT by hand and decoded it with
https://github.com/intel/crashlog.

The region contains a full PMC crashlog (MCA, Punit, UNCORE, PCORE,
PMC, PMC_RST, PMC_TRACE records). iclg summarizes the failure as:

  CORE_TIMEOUT.SINGLE_STUCK_TRANSACTION.C898FH
  MCA.BANK3.INTERNAL_TIMER_ERROR.MSCOD_E184H
  CRASHLOG_REASON.PMC.10H
  CRASHLOG_REASON.PUNIT.20004H
  RESET_CAUSE.FIRMWARE_GLOBAL_RESET.FW_GBLRST_SCRATCH16
  RESET_CAUSE.GLOBAL_RESET.PMC_FW

The important registers (one P-core has captured state):

  mca.bank3.status = 0xbe000000e1840400
      VAL|UC|EN|MISCV|ADDRV|PCC, MCACOD 0x0400 (internal timer /
      retirement watchdog, "three-strike"), MSCOD 0xE184
  mca.bank3.addr = mca.bank3.misc = arch_state.lip
                 = 0xffffffff9471bb3c        (kernel text)
  super queue: exactly one stuck transaction (cacheline 0xC898F)
  pmc_rst: gblrst_cause_0.pmc_fw=1, fw_gblrst_cause_0.scratch16=1,
      gblrst_req_0 = pmc_fw|syspwr_flr|pchpwr_flr

The LIP: given that KASLR slide is 2MB-aligned, (lip mod 2M) is an
invariant. Solving over System.map text symbols gives 14 candidates, of
which only one can be related:

  cpuidle_enter_state+0xbc

Disassembly:

  +0x73  call __x86_indirect_thunk_rax   ; target_state->enter()
   ...   sched_clock_idle_wakeup_event / local_clock_noinstr /
         sched_idle_set_state
  +0xb6  call *pv_ops...irq_enable       ; patched to STI at boot
  +0xbc  test %r14d,%r14d                ; <- LIP

So (my best guess) the core had already returned from MWAIT, executed
STI on the idle-exit path, and then stopped retiring instructions. The
retirement watchdog then fires, Punit reports CORE_TIMEOUT, and PMC
firmware pulls a global platform reset.

The question is whether it is something known or rather something
platform-specific that should be reported to Lenovo instead.

I can provide the raw BERT dump, and also I'd be happy to debug/test if
requested.

Best regards,
Polina.



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* Re: Lunar Lake: silent fatal platform resets caused by idle-exit core hang
  2026-07-05 21:43 Lunar Lake: silent fatal platform resets caused by idle-exit core hang Polina Vishneva
@ 2026-07-08 21:44 ` Len Brown
       [not found]   ` <YQYPR01MB11542163CE28DD33BDC70AC73BDFF2@YQYPR01MB11542.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Len Brown @ 2026-07-08 21:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Polina Vishneva
  Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki, Artem Bityutskiy, linux-pm, linux-kernel, mpearson

I think the chances of this being related to the Linux kernel are very small.
(We've run Linux on this model and it has been fine.)

It would be interesting if booting with "idle=halt" makes the issue go away.

My guess is that you've got a flakey DIMM.
Does it pass an overnight memory test?

Unfortunately, I believe the DIMMs on this one are soldered onto the
motherboard...

cc: Mark, who may have some insight....

cheers,
-Len

On Sun, Jul 5, 2026 at 5:43 PM Polina Vishneva <poli@0iq.dev> wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> So, I've got frustrated enough with my system cold-resetting every few
> days to try to debug the issue, with some success.
>
> TL;DR: cold reset on the cpuidle exit path.
>
> It's *probably* not actually a kernel bug, but I don't know any better
> place to submit it (hoping that the Intel folks will take a look).
>
> System:
> - Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13 (21NS001ACD), BIOS N4BET75W (1.45).
> - Intel Core Ultra 7 258V (Lunar Lake), microcode 0x126.
> - Kernel 7.1.1, intel_idle in ACPI _CST mode.
> - Reproduces even with intel_idle.max_cstate=2, so the enabled
>   states are only POLL, C1_ACPI and C2_ACPI.
>
> On boot after each crash, the kernel logs:
>
>   BERT: [Hardware Error]: Skipped 1 error records
>
> I pulled /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/data/BERT by hand and decoded it with
> https://github.com/intel/crashlog.
>
> The region contains a full PMC crashlog (MCA, Punit, UNCORE, PCORE,
> PMC, PMC_RST, PMC_TRACE records). iclg summarizes the failure as:
>
>   CORE_TIMEOUT.SINGLE_STUCK_TRANSACTION.C898FH
>   MCA.BANK3.INTERNAL_TIMER_ERROR.MSCOD_E184H
>   CRASHLOG_REASON.PMC.10H
>   CRASHLOG_REASON.PUNIT.20004H
>   RESET_CAUSE.FIRMWARE_GLOBAL_RESET.FW_GBLRST_SCRATCH16
>   RESET_CAUSE.GLOBAL_RESET.PMC_FW
>
> The important registers (one P-core has captured state):
>
>   mca.bank3.status = 0xbe000000e1840400
>       VAL|UC|EN|MISCV|ADDRV|PCC, MCACOD 0x0400 (internal timer /
>       retirement watchdog, "three-strike"), MSCOD 0xE184
>   mca.bank3.addr = mca.bank3.misc = arch_state.lip
>                  = 0xffffffff9471bb3c        (kernel text)
>   super queue: exactly one stuck transaction (cacheline 0xC898F)
>   pmc_rst: gblrst_cause_0.pmc_fw=1, fw_gblrst_cause_0.scratch16=1,
>       gblrst_req_0 = pmc_fw|syspwr_flr|pchpwr_flr
>
> The LIP: given that KASLR slide is 2MB-aligned, (lip mod 2M) is an
> invariant. Solving over System.map text symbols gives 14 candidates, of
> which only one can be related:
>
>   cpuidle_enter_state+0xbc
>
> Disassembly:
>
>   +0x73  call __x86_indirect_thunk_rax   ; target_state->enter()
>    ...   sched_clock_idle_wakeup_event / local_clock_noinstr /
>          sched_idle_set_state
>   +0xb6  call *pv_ops...irq_enable       ; patched to STI at boot
>   +0xbc  test %r14d,%r14d                ; <- LIP
>
> So (my best guess) the core had already returned from MWAIT, executed
> STI on the idle-exit path, and then stopped retiring instructions. The
> retirement watchdog then fires, Punit reports CORE_TIMEOUT, and PMC
> firmware pulls a global platform reset.
>
> The question is whether it is something known or rather something
> platform-specific that should be reported to Lenovo instead.
>
> I can provide the raw BERT dump, and also I'd be happy to debug/test if
> requested.
>
> Best regards,
> Polina.
>
>


-- 
Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center

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* Re: Fw: [External] Re: Lunar Lake: silent fatal platform resets caused by idle-exit core hang
       [not found]   ` <YQYPR01MB11542163CE28DD33BDC70AC73BDFF2@YQYPR01MB11542.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
@ 2026-07-08 23:54     ` Mark Pearson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Mark Pearson @ 2026-07-08 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Polina Vishneva, Len Brown
  Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki, Artem Bityutskiy, linux-pm, linux-kernel

Note - switched to my open-source friendly email account. Lenovo email sucks.

>
> I think the chances of this being related to the Linux kernel are very small.
> (We've run Linux on this model and it has been fine.)
>
> It would be interesting if booting with "idle=halt" makes the issue go away.
>
> My guess is that you've got a flakey DIMM.
> Does it pass an overnight memory test?
>
> Unfortunately, I believe the DIMMs on this one are soldered onto the
> motherboard...
>
> cc: Mark, who may have some insight....
> cheers,
> -Len
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2026 at 5:43 PM Polina Vishneva <poli@0iq.dev> wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> So, I've got frustrated enough with my system cold-resetting every few
>> days to try to debug the issue, with some success.
>>
>> TL;DR: cold reset on the cpuidle exit path.
>>
>> It's *probably* not actually a kernel bug, but I don't know any better
>> place to submit it (hoping that the Intel folks will take a look).
>>
>> System:
>> - Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13 (21NS001ACD), BIOS N4BET75W (1.45).
>> - Intel Core Ultra 7 258V (Lunar Lake), microcode 0x126.
>> - Kernel 7.1.1, intel_idle in ACPI _CST mode.
>> - Reproduces even with intel_idle.max_cstate=2, so the enabled
>>   states are only POLL, C1_ACPI and C2_ACPI.
>>
>> On boot after each crash, the kernel logs:
>>
>>   BERT: [Hardware Error]: Skipped 1 error records
>>
>> I pulled /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/data/BERT by hand and decoded it with
>> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fintel%2Fcrashlog&data=05%7C02%7Cmpearson%40lenovo.com%7Cf3802edcfdf349bfdd3c08dedd3a20a6%7C5c7d0b28bdf8410caa934df372b16203%7C0%7C0%7C639191438937666379%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t09jXVwO9ptn39ez5fPlWlnPF7YtqtyuUwxvs484PUU%3D&reserved=0<https://github.com/intel/crashlog>.
>>
>> The region contains a full PMC crashlog (MCA, Punit, UNCORE, PCORE,
>> PMC, PMC_RST, PMC_TRACE records). iclg summarizes the failure as:
>>
>>   CORE_TIMEOUT.SINGLE_STUCK_TRANSACTION.C898FH
>>   MCA.BANK3.INTERNAL_TIMER_ERROR.MSCOD_E184H
>>   CRASHLOG_REASON.PMC.10H
>>   CRASHLOG_REASON.PUNIT.20004H
>>   RESET_CAUSE.FIRMWARE_GLOBAL_RESET.FW_GBLRST_SCRATCH16
>>   RESET_CAUSE.GLOBAL_RESET.PMC_FW
>>
>> The important registers (one P-core has captured state):
>>
>>   mca.bank3.status = 0xbe000000e1840400
>>       VAL|UC|EN|MISCV|ADDRV|PCC, MCACOD 0x0400 (internal timer /
>>       retirement watchdog, "three-strike"), MSCOD 0xE184
>>   mca.bank3.addr = mca.bank3.misc = arch_state.lip
>>                  = 0xffffffff9471bb3c        (kernel text)
>>   super queue: exactly one stuck transaction (cacheline 0xC898F)
>>   pmc_rst: gblrst_cause_0.pmc_fw=1, fw_gblrst_cause_0.scratch16=1,
>>       gblrst_req_0 = pmc_fw|syspwr_flr|pchpwr_flr
>>
>> The LIP: given that KASLR slide is 2MB-aligned, (lip mod 2M) is an
>> invariant. Solving over System.map text symbols gives 14 candidates, of
>> which only one can be related:
>>
>>   cpuidle_enter_state+0xbc
>>
>> Disassembly:
>>
>>   +0x73  call __x86_indirect_thunk_rax   ; target_state->enter()
>>    ...   sched_clock_idle_wakeup_event / local_clock_noinstr /
>>          sched_idle_set_state
>>   +0xb6  call *pv_ops...irq_enable       ; patched to STI at boot
>>   +0xbc  test %r14d,%r14d                ; <- LIP
>>
>> So (my best guess) the core had already returned from MWAIT, executed
>> STI on the idle-exit path, and then stopped retiring instructions. The
>> retirement watchdog then fires, Punit reports CORE_TIMEOUT, and PMC
>> firmware pulls a global platform reset.
>>
>> The question is whether it is something known or rather something
>> platform-specific that should be reported to Lenovo instead.
>>
>> I can provide the raw BERT dump, and also I'd be happy to debug/test if
>> requested.
>>

With the BERT error this looks like a HW issue. X1 Carbon is one of our more popular platforms and should run Linux really well (I used it myself quite a bit for 6 months).
You probably need to call Lenovo support to organise an RMA.

If you want you can send me the kernel log and the EC and ME details (your BIOS version looks recent) and I'll have a look through and confirm there's nothing else funky going on.

I can share the certified Ubuntu or Fedora images if interested. I doubt it's worth burning the time on doing the whole reinstall dance but it can help when dealing with Lenovo support - they like to know the certified image fails too.

Mark


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