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From: Scott Wood <swood@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] tick/sched: Forward timer even in nohz mode
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 17:18:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d18d7772f9ad1f42444ea936243ce958a1345dc.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200106221850.GD26097@lenoir>

On Mon, 2020-01-06 at 23:18 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 06:22:22PM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> > Currently when exiting nohz, the expiry will be forwarded as if we
> > had just run the timer.  If we re-enter nohz before this new expiry,
> > and exit after, this forwarding will happen again.  If this load pattern
> > recurs the tick can be indefinitely postponed.
> 
> I must be missing something but I don't see why that would be a problem.
> Indeed the tick can be indefinitely postponed but that's as long as it's
> not needed. As soon as it's needed (timer callback expired, RCU, ...), the
> tick will be retained and it will eventually fire.

My main concern was the loadavg recording, which does not prevent entering
nohz.  However, if we're going into and out of nohz then the call to
calc_load_nohz_start() in tick_nohz_stop_tick() should take care of it, so I
guess we only need patches 3 and 4, if there's nothing else in the tick that
doesn't either prevent nohz or get handled during the transition
(psi_task_tick?).

-Scott



      reply	other threads:[~2020-01-08 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-16 23:22 Scott Wood
2019-12-16 23:22 ` [PATCH 2/4] tick/sched: Set last_tick in init paths Scott Wood
2019-12-16 23:22 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/core: Don't skip remote tick for idle cpus Scott Wood
2019-12-16 23:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] timers/nohz: Update nohz load in remote tick Scott Wood
2020-01-07  9:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-06 20:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] tick/sched: Forward timer even in nohz mode Scott Wood
2020-01-06 22:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-01-08 23:18   ` Scott Wood [this message]

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