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From: Miaoqing Pan <quic_miaoqing@quicinc.com>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>, Baochen Qiang <quic_bqiang@quicinc.com>
Cc: Johan Hovold <johan+linaro@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Johnson <jjohnson@kernel.org>,
	<linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>, <ath11k@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] wifi: ath11k: fix dest ring-buffer corruption
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:32:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7025db40-dda0-4cbb-80bd-09bd590584da@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01634993-80b1-496e-8453-e94b2efe658c@quicinc.com>



On 6/4/2025 10:34 AM, Miaoqing Pan wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/3/2025 7:51 PM, Johan Hovold wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 03, 2025 at 06:52:37PM +0800, Baochen Qiang wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2025 4:03 PM, Johan Hovold wrote:
>>
>>>> No, the barrier is needed between reading the head pointer and 
>>>> accessing
>>>> descriptor fields, that's what matters.
>>>>
>>>> You can still end up with reading stale descriptor data even when
>>>> ath11k_hal_srng_dst_get_next_entry() returns non-NULL due to 
>>>> speculation
>>>> (that's what happens on the X13s).
>>>
>>> The fact is that a dma_rmb() does not even prevent speculation, no 
>>> matter where it is
>>> placed, right?
>>
>> It prevents the speculated load from being used.
>>
>>> If so the whole point of dma_rmb() is to prevent from compiler 
>>> reordering
>>> or CPU reordering, but is it really possible?
>>>
>>> The sequence is
>>>
>>>     1# reading HP
>>>         srng->u.dst_ring.cached_hp = READ_ONCE(*srng- 
>>> >u.dst_ring.hp_addr);
>>>
>>>     2# validate HP
>>>         if (srng->u.dst_ring.tp == srng->u.dst_ring.cached_hp)
>>>             return NULL;
>>>
>>>     3# get desc
>>>         desc = srng->ring_base_vaddr + srng->u.dst_ring.tp;
>>>
>>>     4# accessing desc
>>>         ath11k_hal_desc_reo_parse_err(... desc, ...)
>>>
>>> Clearly each step depends on the results of previous steps. In this 
>>> case the compiler/CPU
>>> is expected to be smart enough to not do any reordering, isn't it?
>>
>> Steps 3 and 4 can be done speculatively before the load in step 1 is
>> complete as long as the result is discarded if it turns out not to be
>> needed.
>>
> 
> If the condition in step 2 is true and step 3 speculatively loads 
> descriptor from TP before step 1, could this cause issues?

Sorry for typo, if the condition in step 2 is false and step 3 
speculatively loads descriptor from TP before step 1, could this cause 
issues?

> 
> We previously had extensive discussions on this topic in the https:// 
> lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/ecfe850c-b263-4bee-b888- 
> c34178e690fc@quicinc.com/ thread. On my platform, dma_rmb() did not work 
> as expected. The issue only disappeared after disabling PCIe endpoint 
> relaxed ordering in firmware side. So it seems that HP was updated 
> (Memory write) before descriptor (Memory write), which led to the problem.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-04  5:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-26 11:48 [PATCH 0/3] " Johan Hovold
2025-05-26 11:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Johan Hovold
2025-05-29  7:03   ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-06-02  8:03     ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-03 10:52       ` Baochen Qiang
2025-06-03 11:51         ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-04  2:16           ` Baochen Qiang
2025-06-04  6:59             ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-05  8:16               ` Baochen Qiang
2025-06-04  2:34           ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-06-04  5:32             ` Miaoqing Pan [this message]
2025-06-04  7:06               ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-04  7:57                 ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-06-04  8:07                   ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-04  8:18                     ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-06-04 16:24             ` Jeff Johnson
2025-06-05  4:01               ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-06-05 10:17                 ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-05 10:54                   ` Baochen Qiang
2025-06-06  0:52                     ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-06-06  2:02                       ` Baochen Qiang
2025-06-06  7:43                         ` Miaoqing Pan
2025-06-25  2:06   ` Baochen Qiang
2025-06-25  9:34     ` Johan Hovold
2025-05-26 11:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] wifi: ath11k: use plain access for descriptor length Johan Hovold
2025-05-26 11:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] wifi: ath11k: use plain accesses for monitor descriptor Johan Hovold

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