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From: "Colin Walters" <walters@verbum.org>
To: "Giuseppe Scrivano" <gscrivan@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	bristot@redhat.com, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	brauner@kernel.org, "Aleksa Sarai" <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
	"Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Alexander Larsson" <alexl@redhat.com>,
	peterz@infradead.org, bmasney@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] exec: add PR_HIDE_SELF_EXE prctl
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:14:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <70950159-11e4-40c8-a498-04971b7a4ada@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mt68dfpb.fsf@redhat.com>



On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, at 5:54 PM, Giuseppe Scrivano wrote:
>
> I realize it seems like a one-off fix, but it is done only for backward
> compatibility.
>
> Other paths under /proc/self/map_files require CAP_SYS_ADMIN in the
> initial user namespace, or have CAP_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE in the user
> namespace.  Sure, it is not future-proof, but it would look weird if
> after CVE-2019-19814 there will be more ways to access files from the
> host without requiring some capabilities.

I think a way to rephrase what I'm saying is that it feels like this should be about making /proc/self/exe and /proc/self/map_files consistent.

> With the prctl a runtime would just need to do the following and live
> happily ever after:
>
> __attribute__ ((constructor)) static void hide_self_exe (void)
> {
> 	if (prctl(PR_SET_HIDE_SELF_EXE, 1, 0, 0, 0) == 0)
> 		return;
>
> 	/* ...reexec as we do today... */
> }
>
> and we won't have to worry about what mount options are supported or
> used by proc.

Yeah, OK - having the logical operation be on the process and not the view into it (procfs) definitely is more robust.

But how about calling this PR_SET_PROCFS_RESTRICTED or so, and then *also* changing the /proc/self/map_files lookup to deny if this is set?  Yes, it'd be mostly redundant, but it'd help clarify things for any future changes since it'd be clear that the logic *should* be consistent for /proc/self/exe and /proc/self/map_files.  And actually as a bonus, it would make the case of e.g. `podman run --cap-add=checkpoint_restore` secure right?  (Though honestly I don't know how common that is or whether one can practically use checkpoint_restore without other caps)

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-23 23:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-20 10:25 Giuseppe Scrivano
2023-01-20 10:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] selftests: add tests for prctl(SET_HIDE_SELF_EXE) Giuseppe Scrivano
2023-01-20 16:05   ` Brian Masney
2023-01-23 18:41 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] exec: add PR_HIDE_SELF_EXE prctl Colin Walters
2023-01-23 19:21   ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2023-01-23 22:07     ` Colin Walters
2023-01-23 22:54       ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2023-01-23 23:14         ` Colin Walters [this message]
2023-01-24  1:53 ` Aleksa Sarai
2023-01-24  7:29   ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2023-01-25 15:28     ` Aleksa Sarai
2023-01-25 16:30       ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2023-01-29 13:59         ` Colin Walters
2023-01-29 16:58           ` Christian Brauner
2023-01-29 18:12             ` Colin Walters
2023-01-30  9:53               ` Christian Brauner
2023-01-30 10:06                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-01-30 21:52                   ` Colin Walters
2023-01-31 14:17                   ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2023-02-25  0:27                   ` Andrei Vagin
2023-02-28 14:19                     ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2023-01-26  8:25       ` Christian Brauner
2023-01-24 19:17   ` Andrei Vagin
2023-01-27 12:31 ` Christian Brauner
2023-01-27 20:34   ` Kees Cook

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