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From: Sumit Gupta <sumitg@nvidia.com>
To: Beata Michalska <beata.michalska@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/5] cpufreq: Introduce an optional cpuinfo_avg_freq sysfs entry
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 16:59:33 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75454544-f23e-4de9-bc12-64d134fc5027@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250121084435.2839280-3-beata.michalska@arm.com>



On 21/01/25 14:14, Beata Michalska wrote:
> 
> 
> Currently the CPUFreq core exposes two sysfs attributes that can be used
> to query current frequency of a given CPU(s): namely cpuinfo_cur_freq
> and scaling_cur_freq. Both provide slightly different view on the
> subject and they do come with their own drawbacks.
> 
> cpuinfo_cur_freq provides higher precision though at a cost of being
> rather expensive. Moreover, the information retrieved via this attribute
> is somewhat short lived as frequency can change at any point of time
> making it difficult to reason from.
> 
> scaling_cur_freq, on the other hand, tends to be less accurate but then
> the actual level of precision (and source of information) varies between
> architectures making it a bit ambiguous.
> 
> The new attribute, cpuinfo_avg_freq, is intended to provide more stable,
> distinct interface, exposing an average frequency of a given CPU(s), as
> reported by the hardware, over a time frame spanning no more than a few
> milliseconds. As it requires appropriate hardware support, this
> interface is optional.
> 
> Note that under the hood, the new attribute relies on the information
> provided by arch_freq_get_on_cpu, which, up to this point, has been
> feeding data for scaling_cur_freq attribute, being the source of
> ambiguity when it comes to interpretation. This has been amended by
> restoring the intended behavior for scaling_cur_freq, with a new
> dedicated config option to maintain status quo for those, who may need
> it.
> 
> CC: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
> CC: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> CC: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> CC: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
> CC: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
> CC: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>
> CC: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
> CC: x86@kernel.org
> CC: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
> 
> Signed-off-by: Beata Michalska <beata.michalska@arm.com>
> ---
>   Documentation/admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.rst | 16 ++++++++++++-
>   drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig.x86              | 12 ++++++++++
>   drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c                | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++-
>   3 files changed, 56 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.rst
> index a21369eba034..e9969174026c 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.rst
> @@ -248,6 +248,19 @@ are the following:
>          If that frequency cannot be determined, this attribute should not
>          be present.
> 
> +``cpuinfo_avg_freq``
> +        An average frequency (in KHz) of all CPUs belonging to a given policy,
> +        derived from a hardware provided feedback and reported on a time frame
> +        spanning at most few milliseconds.
> +
> +        This is expected to be based on the frequency the hardware actually runs
> +        at and, as such, might require specialised hardware support (such as AMU
> +        extension on ARM). If one cannot be determined, this attribute should
> +        not be present.
> +
> +        Note, that failed attempt to retrieve current frequency for a given
> +        CPU(s) will result in an appropriate error.
> +

Minor nit:
Should we also add: Idle CPU's on ARM will return EAGAIN (Resource 
temporarily unavailable) error?

>   ``cpuinfo_max_freq``
>          Maximum possible operating frequency the CPUs belonging to this policy
>          can run at (in kHz).
> @@ -293,7 +306,8 @@ are the following:
>          Some architectures (e.g. ``x86``) may attempt to provide information
>          more precisely reflecting the current CPU frequency through this
>          attribute, but that still may not be the exact current CPU frequency as
> -       seen by the hardware at the moment.
> +       seen by the hardware at the moment. This behavior though, is only
> +       available via c:macro:``CPUFREQ_ARCH_CUR_FREQ`` option.
> 
>   ``scaling_driver``
>          The scaling driver currently in use.
> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig.x86 b/drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig.x86
> index 97c2d4f15d76..212e1b9afe21 100644
> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig.x86
> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig.x86
> @@ -340,3 +340,15 @@ config X86_SPEEDSTEP_RELAXED_CAP_CHECK
>            option lets the probing code bypass some of those checks if the
>            parameter "relaxed_check=1" is passed to the module.
> 
> +config CPUFREQ_ARCH_CUR_FREQ
> +       default y
> +       bool "Current frequency derived from HW provided feedback"
> +       help
> +         This determines whether the scaling_cur_freq sysfs attribute returns
> +         the last requested frequency or a more precise value based on hardware
> +         provided feedback (as architected counters).
> +         Given that a more precise frequency can now be provided via the
> +         cpuinfo_avg_cur_freq attribute, by enabling this option,

s/cpuinfo_avg_cur_freq/cpuinfo_cur_freq/?

Overall looks good to me.

Reviewed-by: Sumit Gupta <sumitg@nvidia.com>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-29 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-21  8:44 [PATCH v9 0/5] Add support for AArch64 AMUv1-based average freq Beata Michalska
2025-01-21  8:44 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] cpufreq: Allow arch_freq_get_on_cpu to return an error Beata Michalska
2025-01-21 10:47   ` Viresh Kumar
2025-01-21 15:14     ` Beata Michalska
2025-01-21 18:40       ` Vanshidhar Konda
2025-01-23 21:37         ` Beata Michalska
2025-01-22  6:12       ` Viresh Kumar
2025-01-23 21:45         ` Beata Michalska
2025-01-24  3:33           ` Viresh Kumar
2025-01-28  8:09             ` Beata Michalska
2025-01-28  8:18               ` Viresh Kumar
2025-01-21 10:47   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-24  4:15   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-21  8:44 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] cpufreq: Introduce an optional cpuinfo_avg_freq sysfs entry Beata Michalska
2025-01-21 10:53   ` Viresh Kumar
2025-01-21 15:17     ` Beata Michalska
2025-01-22  6:09       ` Viresh Kumar
2025-01-23 21:47         ` Beata Michalska
2025-01-24  3:27           ` Viresh Kumar
2025-01-28  8:43   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-29 11:29   ` Sumit Gupta [this message]
2025-01-21  8:44 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] arm64: amu: Delay allocating cpumask for AMU FIE support Beata Michalska
2025-01-24  4:48   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-29 11:17   ` Sumit Gupta
2025-01-21  8:44 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] arm64: Provide an AMU-based version of arch_freq_get_on_cpu Beata Michalska
2025-01-24  4:43   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-28  8:16     ` Beata Michalska
2025-01-28  8:52       ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-29 11:15   ` Sumit Gupta
2025-01-21  8:44 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] arm64: Update AMU-based freq scale factor on entering idle Beata Michalska
2025-01-24  4:45   ` Prasanna Kumar T S M
2025-01-29 11:13   ` Sumit Gupta

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