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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/fair: Use all little CPUs for CPU-bound workload
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 13:16:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <764e015b-b987-4722-b088-56da22848644@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <980a1a52-80a1-4d3b-8931-5f9a6546bbf5@arm.com>

On 29/11/2023 11:48, Pierre Gondois wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/29/23 09:55, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
>> On 24/11/2023 16:33, Pierre Gondois wrote:

[...]

>>> Testing workload ([1]):
>>> Spawn 6 CPU-bound tasks. During the first 100ms (step 1), each tasks
>>> is affine to a CPU, except for:
>>> - one little CPU which is left idle.
>>> - one big CPU which has 2 tasks affine.
>>> After the 100ms (step 2), remove the cpumask affinity.
>>>
>>> Before patch:
>>> During step 2, the load balancer running from the idle CPU tags sched
>>> domains as:
>>> - little CPUs: 'group_has_spare'. Indeed, 3 CPU-bound tasks run on a
>>>    4 CPUs sched-domain, and the idle CPU provides enough spare
>>>    capacity.
>>
>> What is meant by 'idle CPU provides enough spare capacity? I thought the
>> task (util_avg ~ 512_ does not fit on the sched group [1,3-5] when we
>> consider util_avg/capacity (383)
> 
> Right, I meant that when evaluating the 'group_type', there is enough spare
> capacity when summing the utilization of CPUs in the the MC sched domain:
> 
> ---
> group_has_capacity()
> {
>     [...]
>     if ((sgs->group_capacity * 100) >
>             (sgs->group_util * imbalance_pct))
>         return true;
>     [...]
> }

I see. But doesn't group_has_capacity() already return true because of
`if (sgs->sum_nr_running < sgs->group_weight)` in this case (3 < 4)?

Maybe you can make this clearer when sending the v3 with the Reviewed-By
tags?

> ---
> 
>>
>> The calculated imbalance of ~350 is too small for the task-size and
>> that's why we need the 'shr_bound(util, env->sd->nr_balance_failed)' to
>> let the task load-balance if nr_balance_failed = 2?
> 
> Yes exact, the tasks are too big and cannot fit this imbalance value
> (representing the available spare capacity in the little CPUs in this
> case).
> 
> 'shr_bound(...)' allows to progressively reduce the size of the tasks and
> allow migrations after having tried to balance 'nr_balance_failed' times.

[...]


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-29 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-24 15:33 Pierre Gondois
2023-11-24 15:56 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-11-29  8:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-11-29 10:48   ` Pierre Gondois
2023-11-29 12:16     ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2023-11-30 17:30 ` Qais Yousef

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