From: Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/fair: Use all little CPUs for CPU-bound workload
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 11:48:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <980a1a52-80a1-4d3b-8931-5f9a6546bbf5@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b373fde3-95a1-4b08-a5f0-f66e3463c298@arm.com>
On 11/29/23 09:55, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 24/11/2023 16:33, Pierre Gondois wrote:
>> Running n CPU-bound tasks on an n CPUs platform:
>> - with asymmetric CPU capacity
>> - not having SD_SHARE_PKG_RESOURCES flag set at the DIE
>
> nit: DIE is now called PKG on tip sched/core.
>
> f577cd57bfaa - sched/topology: Rename 'DIE' domain to 'PKG' (2023-10-12
> Peter Zijlstra)
>
>> sched domain level (i.e. not DynamIQ systems)
>> might result in a task placement where two tasks run on a big CPU
>> and none on a little CPU. This placement could be more optimal by
>> using all CPUs.
>>
>> Testing platform:
>> Juno-r2:
>> - 2 big CPUs (1-2), maximum capacity of 1024
>> - 4 little CPUs (0,3-5), maximum capacity of 383
>>
>> Testing workload ([1]):
>> Spawn 6 CPU-bound tasks. During the first 100ms (step 1), each tasks
>> is affine to a CPU, except for:
>> - one little CPU which is left idle.
>> - one big CPU which has 2 tasks affine.
>> After the 100ms (step 2), remove the cpumask affinity.
>>
>> Before patch:
>> During step 2, the load balancer running from the idle CPU tags sched
>> domains as:
>> - little CPUs: 'group_has_spare'. Indeed, 3 CPU-bound tasks run on a
>> 4 CPUs sched-domain, and the idle CPU provides enough spare
>> capacity.
>
> What is meant by 'idle CPU provides enough spare capacity? I thought the
> task (util_avg ~ 512_ does not fit on the sched group [1,3-5] when we
> consider util_avg/capacity (383)
Right, I meant that when evaluating the 'group_type', there is enough spare
capacity when summing the utilization of CPUs in the the MC sched domain:
---
group_has_capacity()
{
[...]
if ((sgs->group_capacity * 100) >
(sgs->group_util * imbalance_pct))
return true;
[...]
}
---
>
> The calculated imbalance of ~350 is too small for the task-size and
> that's why we need the 'shr_bound(util, env->sd->nr_balance_failed)' to
> let the task load-balance if nr_balance_failed = 2?
Yes exact, the tasks are too big and cannot fit this imbalance value
(representing the available spare capacity in the little CPUs in this case).
'shr_bound(...)' allows to progressively reduce the size of the tasks and
allow migrations after having tried to balance 'nr_balance_failed' times.
>
> [...]
>
>> Similar issue reported at:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230716014125.139577-1-qyousef@layalina.io/
>>
>> v1:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231110125902.2152380-1-pierre.gondois@arm.com/
>>
>> Suggested-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com>
>
> Even though this cures only classical big.LITTLE it might have a
> positive effect on today's Arm DynamIQ Android systems with Phantom SDs
> when running benchmarks like Geekbench.
>
> [...]
>
> Reviewed-by: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-29 10:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-24 15:33 Pierre Gondois
2023-11-24 15:56 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-11-29 8:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-11-29 10:48 ` Pierre Gondois [this message]
2023-11-29 12:16 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-11-30 17:30 ` Qais Yousef
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