From: "Albert Cahalan" <acahalan@gmail.com>
To: benh@kernel.crashing.org, jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, davem@davemloft.net, jeff@garzik.org,
paulus@samba.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org,
segher@kernel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: Opinion on ordering of writel vs. stores to RAM
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:30:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <787b0d920609112130v2d855023ief2457942736ccfd@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Benjamin Herrenschmidt writes:
> On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 11:08 -0700, Jesse Barnes wrote:
>> Ok, that's fine, though I think you'd only want the very weak
>> semantics (as provided by your __raw* routines) on write
>> combined memory typically?
>
> Well, that and memory with no side effects (like frame buffers)
Oh no, it's great for regular device driver work. I used this
type of system all the time on a different PowerPC OS.
Suppose you need to set up a piece of hardware. Assume that the
hardware isn't across some nasty bridge. You do this:
hw->x = 42;
hw->y = 19;
eieio();
hw->p = 11;
hw->q = 233;
hw->r = 87;
eieio()
hw->n = 101;
hw->m = 5;
eieio()
In that ficticious example, I get 7 writes to the hardware device
with only 3 "eieio" operations. It's not hard at all. Sometimes
a "sync" is used instead, also explicitly.
To get even more speed, you can mark memory as non-coherent.
You can even do this for RAM. There are cache control instructions
to take care of any problems; simply ask the CPU to write things
out as needed.
Linux should probably do this:
Plain stuff is like x86. If you want the performance of loose
ordering, ask for it when you get the mapping and use read/write
functions that have a "_" prefix. If you mix the "_" versions
with a plain x86-like mapping or the other way, the behavior you
get will be an arch-specific middle ground.
next reply other threads:[~2006-09-12 4:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-12 4:30 Albert Cahalan [this message]
2006-09-12 5:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 6:04 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-09-12 6:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 7:09 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-09-12 7:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 7:21 ` Albert Cahalan
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-11 5:03 Michael Chan
2006-09-11 5:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-09 2:03 Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09 2:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 3:02 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09 3:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 7:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-09 9:34 ` David Miller
2006-09-09 9:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-09 10:08 ` David Miller
2006-09-10 17:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-10 19:35 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10 21:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-10 22:23 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10 22:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 13:19 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-09-10 23:35 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 0:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 0:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 1:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 1:13 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 1:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 9:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-11 9:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 0:25 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 0:54 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 1:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 1:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 3:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 18:12 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 1:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 18:08 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 21:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-10 20:01 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 13:21 ` David Miller
2006-09-11 14:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-12 0:32 ` David Miller
2006-09-12 0:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 16:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-12 0:54 ` Roland Dreier
2006-09-09 11:16 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09 7:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-09 9:38 ` David Miller
2006-09-09 15:09 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-10 17:19 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-10 17:35 ` Michael Buesch
2006-09-10 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-10 18:02 ` Michael Buesch
2006-09-09 15:08 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-09 18:34 ` Auke Kok
2006-09-09 19:10 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-09-09 15:06 ` Alan Cox
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