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From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>,
	Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/10] mm, slab: introduce slab_debug=N
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 15:36:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ac409a1-fe3e-4b37-8130-4d49ecb6106a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <auyFYsbsMm8qGThW@thinkstation>

On 11/5/26 15:30, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 09:43:53AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>> Enabling slab_debug has the side-effect of disabling all percpu caching
>> of objects (now via sheaves), which can be sometimes useful for saving
>> memory for e.g. kdump kernels. To make this possible without the
>> overhead (CPU or memory) of actual debugging options such as poisoning,
>> introduce a No-op debug option that only forces the debugging slow paths
>> and zero sheaf capacity. The new corresponding slab flag is
>> SLAB_DEBUG_NOOP.
>> 
>> This will also allow reimplementing CONFIG_SLUB_TINY as a boot-time
>> option.
>> 
>> Two details have to be considered, as suggested by Harry Yoo [1].
>> 
>> - While SLAB_DEBUG_NOOP is part of SLAB_DEBUG_FLAGS, it should not
>>   prevent cache merging as it doesn't affect object metadata, and lack
>>   of merging would go against the memory footprint reduction. Thus
>>   exclude the flag from SLAB_NEVER_MERGE.
>> 
>>   - However add the flag to SLAB_MERGE_SAME, per sashiko.
>> 
>> - SLAB_DEBUG_NOOP alone should not request disabling printk pointer
>>   hashing. Thus rework the call to hash_pointers_finalize() to not rely
>>   on the slub_debug static key state. Instead determine whether the
>>   global or per-cache slab_debug options include any flags that are not
>>   SLAB_DEBUG_NOOP. This does not change the fact that caches created
>>   with explicit debug flags (i.e. slub_kunit tests) later in boot have
>>   no effect on pointer hashing, which is determined in
>>   kmem_cache_init().
>> 
>> While documenting the new N option, remove obsolete SLAB references from
>> the F option description.
>> 
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/arUx56ee_nkxYP_f@thinkstation/
>> [2] https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20261024-slub_tiny_rework-v2-0-bf1419ab5ffd@kernel.org?part=2
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>
>> ---
> 
> With the sashiko report to this patch fixed, this looks good to me.
> Reviewed-by: Harry Yoo (Meta) <harry@kernel.org>
> 
> One nit comment:
> 
> specifying SLAB_DEBUG_FLAGS depends on CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG, and with this
> patchset there is no way to minimize slab memory usage w/o SLUB_DEBUG.

Maybe not at this point, but unless I made some mistake, later slab_tiny=1
stops depending on SLUB_DEBUG. slab_debug=N itself does depend on it but I
think that's acceptable

> Sounds like it's time to make SLUB_DEBUG unconditional. It's enabled on
> all distros listed in kconfigs [1].

Yes it's my plan to do that next, I did even discuss it with Christoph at LPC :)

> I built kernels w/o SLUB_DEBUG and the difference in the kernel
> binary was about 40 KiB.
> 
> [1] https://oracle.github.io/kconfigs/?config=UTS_RELEASE&config=SLUB_DEBUG
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-05 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-05  8:43 [PATCH v3 00/10] replace CONFIG_SLUB_TINY with a slab_tiny boot parameter Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] slab, kunit: pin test slabs by an extra allocation Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05 12:59   ` Harry Yoo
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] kasan, " Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05 13:03   ` Harry Yoo
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] mm, slab: refactor slab_min/max_order handling Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05 13:12   ` Harry Yoo
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] mm, slab: introduce slab_debug=N Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05 14:30   ` Harry Yoo
2026-11-05 14:36     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2026-11-05 15:02       ` Harry Yoo
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] mm, slab: rework KMALLOC_RECLAIM handling of SLUB_TINY Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] mm, slab: make SLUB_TINY handling dynamic for sizing decisions Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] mm, slab: convert CONFIG_SLUB_TINY checks to kmem_cache_debug() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] mm, slab: remove remaining compile-time checks for CONFIG_SLUB_TINY Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] mm, slab: add slab_tiny boot param Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-11-05  8:43 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] mm, slab: deprecate CONFIG_SLUB_TINY and reduce its Kconfig effects Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)

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