Something odd in knail from 3.5.9 on F8

Something odd in knail from 3.5.9 on F8

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;

Yesterday I needed to email a patch file I had just generated to the maintainer 
of the OS for a "legacy" computer, so I fired up the new mail by clicking on 
his name in a previous email, wrote a short msg and tried to attach the patch.  
But regardless of how many times I backed out of the directory & then went back 
in, the directory listing I was being shown was exactly as it had existed about 
36 hours ago.  No new files could be seen.  So I could not attach it, nor 
include it as text in that msg.
.
After I had sent the msg, I shut kmail down using its quit button, gave it 30 
secs to clean up and disappear from the htop list, then restarted it, at which 
point the newer and missing files were then visible and I sent the patch using 
the exact same procedure.

Currently running locally built 2.6.26-rc2 for a kernel.  So which direction do 
I point the accusatory finger here folks?

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
"Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz smiled very slowly. This was done 
not so much for effect as because he was trying to remember 
the sequence of muscle movements. "

Re: Something odd in knail from 3.5.9 on F8

[Tom Spink]

2008/5/25 Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>:
> Greetings all;
>
> Yesterday I needed to email a patch file I had just generated to the maintainer
> of the OS for a "legacy" computer, so I fired up the new mail by clicking on
> his name in a previous email, wrote a short msg and tried to attach the patch.
> But regardless of how many times I backed out of the directory & then went back
> in, the directory listing I was being shown was exactly as it had existed about
> 36 hours ago.  No new files could be seen.  So I could not attach it, nor
> include it as text in that msg.
> .
> After I had sent the msg, I shut kmail down using its quit button, gave it 30
> secs to clean up and disappear from the htop list, then restarted it, at which
> point the newer and missing files were then visible and I sent the patch using
> the exact same procedure.
>
> Currently running locally built 2.6.26-rc2 for a kernel.  So which direction do
> I point the accusatory finger here folks?

Hi Gene,

Are you able to reproduce the problem?  Were you able to view the
"real" contents of the directory in, say, a terminal (with ls) or
Konqueror (or whatever you prefer), while KMail was acting up?

> Cheers, Gene

-- 
Tom Spink

Re: Something odd in knail from 3.5.9 on F8

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 25 May 2008, Tom Spink wrote:
>2008/5/25 Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>:
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> Yesterday I needed to email a patch file I had just generated to the
>> maintainer of the OS for a "legacy" computer, so I fired up the new mail
>> by clicking on his name in a previous email, wrote a short msg and tried
>> to attach the patch. But regardless of how many times I backed out of the
>> directory & then went back in, the directory listing I was being shown was
>> exactly as it had existed about 36 hours ago.  No new files could be seen.
>>  So I could not attach it, nor include it as text in that msg.
>> .
>> After I had sent the msg, I shut kmail down using its quit button, gave it
>> 30 secs to clean up and disappear from the htop list, then restarted it,
>> at which point the newer and missing files were then visible and I sent
>> the patch using the exact same procedure.
>>
>> Currently running locally built 2.6.26-rc2 for a kernel.  So which
>> direction do I point the accusatory finger here folks?
>
>Hi Gene,
>
>Are you able to reproduce the problem?  Were you able to view the
>"real" contents of the directory in, say, a terminal (with ls) or
>Konqueror (or whatever you prefer), while KMail was acting up?
>
Yes, ls or ls -l displayed them correctly in several other terminal shells, 
while kmail couldn't see them.  But, kmail had not looked at that directory 
since launching it at the last bootup till then, so I can't quite bring myself 
to believe it was looking at old cached info, that was its first look there 
since bootup a day before.

And now of course it works.  Same kernel, same kmail.  Go figure, but I think it 
will take some of that new-fangled math to make 2+2=4 in this case. :-\

Thanks Tom.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
The earth is like a tiny grain of sand, only much, much heavier.

Re: Something odd in knail from 3.5.9 on F8

[Tom Spink]

2008/5/25 Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>:
> On Sunday 25 May 2008, Tom Spink wrote:
>>2008/5/25 Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>:
>>> Greetings all;
>>>
>>> Yesterday I needed to email a patch file I had just generated to the
>>> maintainer of the OS for a "legacy" computer, so I fired up the new mail
>>> by clicking on his name in a previous email, wrote a short msg and tried
>>> to attach the patch. But regardless of how many times I backed out of the
>>> directory & then went back in, the directory listing I was being shown was
>>> exactly as it had existed about 36 hours ago.  No new files could be seen.
>>>  So I could not attach it, nor include it as text in that msg.
>>> .
>>> After I had sent the msg, I shut kmail down using its quit button, gave it
>>> 30 secs to clean up and disappear from the htop list, then restarted it,
>>> at which point the newer and missing files were then visible and I sent
>>> the patch using the exact same procedure.
>>>
>>> Currently running locally built 2.6.26-rc2 for a kernel.  So which
>>> direction do I point the accusatory finger here folks?
>>
>>Hi Gene,
>>
>>Are you able to reproduce the problem?  Were you able to view the
>>"real" contents of the directory in, say, a terminal (with ls) or
>>Konqueror (or whatever you prefer), while KMail was acting up?
>>
> Yes, ls or ls -l displayed them correctly in several other terminal shells,
> while kmail couldn't see them.  But, kmail had not looked at that directory
> since launching it at the last bootup till then, so I can't quite bring myself
> to believe it was looking at old cached info, that was its first look there
> since bootup a day before.
>
> And now of course it works.  Same kernel, same kmail.  Go figure, but I think it
> will take some of that new-fangled math to make 2+2=4 in this case. :-\

Heh, cool.  I guess it's some weird "KDE-caching" Heisenbug.  Although
I'm no KDE expert at all, and don't know how their file browsers work.

> Thanks Tom.

No problem.

> Cheers, Gene

-- 
Tom Spink