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From: "Daniel Xu" <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>
To: "Willem de Bruijn" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	"Alexander Shalimov" <alex-shalimov@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jacob Keller" <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	jasowang@redhat.com, "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"bpf@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net/tun: expose queue utilization stats via ethtool
Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 13:21:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81d6fb01-e914-4c04-875a-58e61b433a80@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68277463d4c43_2ba041294cf@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch>



On Fri, May 16, 2025, at 10:22 AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> Daniel Xu wrote:
>> On Thu, May 15, 2025, at 7:12 AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
>> > Alexander Shalimov wrote:
>> >> 06.05.2025, 22:32, "Willem de Bruijn" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>:
>> >> > Perhaps bpftrace with a kfunc at a suitable function entry point to
>> >> > get access to these ring structures.
>> >> 
>> >> Thank you for your responses!
>> >> 
>> >> Initially, we implemented such monitoring using bpftrace but we were
>> >> not satisfied with the need to double-check the structure definitions
>> >> in tun.c for each new kernel version.
>> >> 
>> >> We attached kprobe to the "tun_net_xmit()" function. This function
>> >> gets a "struct net_device" as an argument, which is then explicitly
>> >> cast to a tun_struct - "struct tun_struct *tun = netdev_priv(dev)".
>> >> However, performing such a cast within bpftrace is difficult because
>> >> tun_struct is defined in tun.c - meaning the structure definition
>> >> cannot be included directly (not a header file). As a result, we were
>> >> forced to add fake "struct tun_struct" and "struct tun_file"
>> >> definitions, whose maintenance across kernel versions became
>> >> cumbersome (see below). The same problems exists even with kfunc and
>> >> btf - we are not able to cast properly netdev to tun_struct.
>> >> 
>> >> That’s why we decided to add this functionality directly to the kernel.
>> >
>> > Let's solve this in bpftrace instead. That's no reason to rever to
>> > hardcoded kernel APIs.
>> >
>> > It quite possibly already is. I'm no bpftrace expert. Cc:ing bpf@
>> 
>> Yeah, should be possible. You haven't needed to include header
>> files to access type information available in BTF for a while now.
>> This seems to work for me - mind giving this a try?
>> 
>> ```
>> fentry:tun:tun_net_xmit {
>>     $tun = (struct tun_struct *)args->dev->priv;
>>     print($tun->numqueues);  // or whatever else you want
>> }
>> ```
>> 
>> fentry probes are better in general than kprobes if all you're doing
>> is attaching to the entry of a function.
>> 
>> You could do the same with kprobes like this if you really want, though:
>> 
>> ```
>> kprobe:tun:tun_net_xmit {
>>     $dev = (struct net_device *)arg1;
>>     $tun = (struct tun_struct *)$dev->priv;
>>     print($tun->numqueues);  // or whatever else you want
>> }
>> ```
>> 
>> Although it looks like there's a bug when you omit the module name
>> where bpftrace doesn't find the struct definition. I'll look into that.
>
> Minor: unless tun is built-in.

Ah, right.

>
> Thanks a lot for your response, Daniel. Good to know that we can get
> this information without kernel changes. And I learned something new
> :) Replicated your examples.

Nice! Feel free to CC me if you have other stuff in the future.

Bug fix for parsing implicit module BTF up here:
https://github.com/bpftrace/bpftrace/pull/4137

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-16 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-06 15:41 Alexander Shalimov
2025-05-06 16:07 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-05-06 19:00   ` Jacob Keller
2025-05-06 19:32     ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-05-14 23:39       ` Alexander Shalimov
2025-05-15 14:12         ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-05-16  1:56           ` Daniel Xu
2025-05-16 17:22             ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-05-16 20:21               ` Daniel Xu [this message]
2025-05-22 14:26                 ` Alexander Shalimov

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