From: Cristian Ciocaltea <cristian.ciocaltea@collabora.com>
To: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>
Cc: "Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
"Maíra Canal" <mcanal@igalia.com>,
"Raspberry Pi Kernel Maintenance" <kernel-list@raspberrypi.com>,
"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
kernel@collabora.com, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Bump BCM2835 max pixel clock to 165 MHz
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2026 19:58:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86109ed5-2c0b-4b1a-8c48-1102bd043fad@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPY8ntBFT_R1HbzzCvdvJ01SV8db0Cz7HcuRE7HaoyJ3-1FATQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Dave,
On 10/13/26 6:59 PM, Dave Stevenson wrote:
> Hi Cristian
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 at 01:16, Cristian Ciocaltea
> <cristian.ciocaltea@collabora.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> On 10/13/26 1:37 AM, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
>>> Historically, the HSM clock for BCM2835 was fixed at 163.7 MHz. Since
>>> the pixel clock had to be at least 1% below the HSM clock, it was capped
>>> at 162 MHz.
>>>
>>> Since commit cd4cb49dc5bb ("drm/vc4: hdmi: Adjust HSM clock rate
>>> depending on pixel rate"), the HSM clock rate is set to pixel clock *
>>> 101 / 100. For a 165 MHz pixel clock, this gives an HSM rate of 166.65
>>> MHz, which, per Dave Stevenson, the hardware can handle without issues.
>>>
>>> Increase the max pixel clock to 165 MHz, which matches the maximum TMDS
>>> character rate of HDMI 1.0 through 1.2.
>>
>> It seems this will cause CEC register corruption:
>>
>> https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20261013-vc4-common-scramb-v2-0-a41d15e131ad@collabora.com?part=2
>>
>> We can easily address this by clamping the CEC clock divider to its register
>> field width:
>>
>> - clk_cnt = cec_rate / CEC_CLOCK_FREQ;
>> + clk_cnt = min_t(unsigned long, cec_rate / CEC_CLOCK_FREQ,
>> + VC4_HDMI_CEC_DIV_CLK_CNT_MASK >>
>> + VC4_HDMI_CEC_DIV_CLK_CNT_SHIFT);
>>
>> The consequence is that the CEC clock would run slightly faster than the nominal
>> 40 kHz, i.e. (165000 × 101/100) / (2^12 - 1) = 40.6959 kHz.
>>
>> I think this is still within the CEC bit-timing tolerances and shouldn't cause
>> any issues. Could you please confirm?
>
> My reading of the CEC spec agrees.
>
> All the timings have tolerance of +/- 0.2ms on values up to 4.5ms, so
> that would allow up to a 4.3% tolerance on frequency.
> The error from clipping the clock divider is 1.74%, so fairly
> comfortably within tolerance.
>
> It's only video modes with clocks in the range 162-165MHz that will
> have any inaccuracy, so pretty limited in scope anyway.
Yep, the clamp would trigger only for pixel clocks above 162.178 MHz.
> Working backwards, achieving a 40kHz output with the max divider works
> out to be a 163.8MHz HSM clock, so that would appear to be why the
> limit was introduced in the first place.
Quite possible, indeed.
So I'll prepare v3, which adds yet another prerequisite patch to clamp the CEC
clock divider.
Thanks,
Cristian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-13 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-12 22:37 [PATCH v2 0/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Convert to common HDMI 2.0 scrambling infrastructure Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-10-12 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Use common TMDS char rate constants Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-10-12 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Bump BCM2835 max pixel clock to 165 MHz Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-10-13 0:16 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-10-13 15:59 ` Dave Stevenson
2026-10-13 16:58 ` Cristian Ciocaltea [this message]
2026-10-12 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Switch to drm_hdmi_mode_needs_scrambling() Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-10-12 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Switch to .force_ctx() connector helper Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-10-12 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Propagate -EDEADLK to the top level Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-10-12 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Convert to drmm_connector_hdmi_init() Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-10-12 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Convert to common HDMI 2.0 scrambling infrastructure Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-10-12 22:37 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] drm/vc4: hdmi: Defer pixel clock validation to HDMI helpers Cristian Ciocaltea
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