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From: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	"ananth@in.ibm.com" <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] x86: use dmi check to treat disabled cpus as  hotplug cpus.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:13:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86802c441001121013o4b8775edl1bc36f120e072b75@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001120719260.17145@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Yinghai Lu wrote:
>> >
>> > Slightly more intelligent:
>> >
>> >  - Look at the ACPI socket count, and hey, if it says it might have more
>> >   sockets - whether they are really hotplug or not, don't use flat mode,
>> >   because we simply don't know. But do _not_ do some kind of DMI table to
>> >   say one way or the other.
>>
>> that acpi could lie, for example, some system share one BIOS between 2
>> socket/4 socket/8 sockets
>> model. and BIOS could have bunch disabled entries in MADT. or MPTABLE.
>
> That's fine. So it would mean that sometimes we'd use non-flat mode even
> if we strictly didn't need to (because we _think_ that there could be four
> sockets even though there is only one, and three are disabled). But things
> would still work without any special cases.
>
>> > And if it's _really_ important:
>> >
>> >  - if flat mode is so important that you want to enable it whenever
>> >   possible, what about enabling/disabling it dynamically at CPU hotplug
>> >   time? That does sound _very_ painful, but it's still better than having
>> >   to maintain some list of all systems that can ever hot-plug.
>>
>> interesting, could be done.
>> init_apic_ldr is called even for physical flat on 64 bit.
>> could change apic on fly.
>
> Quite frankly, while I suggested it as an option, I really suspect it's
> too much complexity for very little real gain.
>
> Say that you have only four cores, but the kernel decided that it can't
> use logical flat APIC mode because it sees three disabled sockets and
> thinks "ok, we may end up with a total of 16 cores if those sockets are
> hotplugged". Is that such a disaster?
>
> Realistically, do we really care? Do you have performance numbers that say
> that logical flat mode is so important that we really _really_ want to use
> it, even at the cost of nasty run-time complexity with having to
> re-program the APIC setup entirely when going from 8->9 CPU's?

ok let stay with option 1.

and would like to use DMI to blacklist those systems that do need treat disabled
cpus MADT as hotplug cpus.

YH

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-12 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-12  2:48 [RFC PATCH 1/4] use nr_cpus= to set nr_cpu_ids early Yinghai Lu
2010-01-12  2:48 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] x86: using logical flat for amd cpu too Yinghai Lu
2010-01-12  3:16   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-12  8:47     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-01-12  8:27   ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2010-01-12 22:50     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-13  4:53       ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2010-01-12  2:48 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] x86: according to nr_cpu_ids to decide if need to leave logical flat Yinghai Lu
2010-01-12  3:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-12  8:50     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-01-12  2:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] x86: use dmi check to treat disabled cpus as hotplug cpus Yinghai Lu
2010-01-12  3:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-12  8:59     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-01-12 15:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-12 17:54         ` Suresh Siddha
2010-01-12 18:13         ` Yinghai Lu [this message]
2010-01-12 18:24           ` Suresh Siddha
2010-01-12 19:19             ` Yinghai Lu
2010-01-12  9:15     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-01-12  9:46     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-12 16:14     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-01-12 16:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-12 17:17         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-01-12  3:06 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] use nr_cpus= to set nr_cpu_ids early Linus Torvalds

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