From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Kamal Wadhwa <kamal.wadhwa@oss.qualcomm.com>,
jishnu.prakash@oss.qualcomm.com
Cc: Rakesh Kota <rakesh.kota@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: pmic-glink: Document batteryless property
Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 09:20:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86f76a81-832d-4ba5-81d5-38b46b7dc0a7@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260521071341.q4efqssppvettaey@hu-kamalw-hyd.qualcomm.com>
On 21/05/2026 09:13, Kamal Wadhwa wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 12:35:13PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 01:55:26PM +0530, Rakesh Kota wrote:
>>>
>>>> And isn't lack of monitored battery property enough to indicate that?
>>>
>>> Regarding monitored-battery — its absence alone isn't sufficient. The
>>> BATT_ID line on debug boards is pulled to ~10kΩ, which is used during
>>> development phase where some battery properties are still present. The
>>> same ~10kΩ value is also used on some genuinely battery-less production
>>> platforms where no battery properties exist, making auto-detection
>>> unreliable. Hence the need for an explicit DT property to identify
>>> hardware platforms where no battery populated.
>>
>> I don't understand this logic. So you claim you have debug boards which
>> do not have battery, but define monitored-battery? Then these are wrong
>> and fix them first.
>
> Actually our firmware treats the debug board as a "fake battery" rather then
> a "no-battery" case.
>
> This is done to avoid triggering shutdown or trigger power/thermal related
> mitigations to kick in from the HLOS (android) that is configured mainly for
> battery-backed devices.
>
> Note that we can know if its a debug board, just by looking at the battery
> ID resistance or the battery profile name in the power supply properties
> for `qcom-battmgr-bat` in sysfs.
>
> However, the problem started with the boards that are battery-less and
> unfortunetely used the same debug board batt ID resistance value, so from
> the firmware side the batteryless board is also seen same as a board with
> debug-board connected.
>
> Since firmware does not have a way to dynamically tell if it on a
> debug-board powered device or a DCIN powered device, We are required to
> add this new DT property.
Neither debug-board powered device nor battery-less will have
monitored-battery, thus again, why lack of that property cannot tell you
what you need?
And no, you are not required to add a new DT property. Every wrong
property was also justified like that...
Best regards,
Krzysztof
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-21 7:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-18 13:49 [PATCH 0/2] qcom_battmgr: Add batteryless DC-adapter MAINS support Rakesh Kota
2026-05-18 13:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: pmic-glink: Document batteryless property Rakesh Kota
2026-05-18 15:27 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-19 8:25 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-05-19 10:35 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-19 10:47 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-19 10:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-21 7:13 ` Kamal Wadhwa
2026-05-21 7:20 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-05-21 8:46 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-21 9:58 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-22 9:24 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-22 10:32 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-22 10:34 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-25 12:01 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-02 11:30 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-02 11:48 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 11:49 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-17 0:14 ` Bjorn Andersson
2026-05-21 12:38 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-05-21 23:34 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-05-18 13:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] power: supply: qcom_battmgr: Add support batteryless boards as MAINS Rakesh Kota
2026-07-17 0:12 ` Bjorn Andersson
2026-05-18 14:36 ` [PATCH 0/2] qcom_battmgr: Add batteryless DC-adapter MAINS support Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-19 6:59 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-05-19 10:58 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-21 12:28 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-05-21 22:56 ` Bjorn Andersson
2026-06-30 14:16 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-02 11:17 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-02 11:28 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-03 9:13 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-03 9:16 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-16 8:48 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-16 23:54 ` Bjorn Andersson
2026-07-17 10:00 ` Rakesh Kota
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