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From: "Zhang, Rui" <rui.zhang@intel.com>
To: "peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"zhang.jia@linux.alibaba.com" <zhang.jia@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 0/1] x86: cpu topology fix and question on x86_max_cores
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 14:40:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86feeb182cea8f6a6f850dfc4495daf01ee51558.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y/NNKdAtSZv631Z2@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, 2023-02-20 at 11:36 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 11:28:55AM +0800, Zhang Rui wrote:
> 
> > Solution for fix smp_num_sibling
> > --------------------------------
> > 
> > Patch 1/1 ensures that smp_num_siblings represents the system-wide
> > maximum
> > number of siblings by always increasing its value. Never allow it
> > to
> > decrease.
> > 
> > It is sufficient to make the problem go away.
> > 
> > However, there is a pontenial problem left. That is, when boot CPU
> > is an
> > Ecore CPU, smp_num_sibling is set to 1 during BSP probe, kernel
> > disables
> > SMT support by setting cpu_smt_control to CPU_SMT_NOT_SUPPORTED in
> > start_kernel()->check_bugs()->cpu_smt_check_topology().
> > So far, we don't have such platforms.
> 
> This is the much recurring problem of 


> the boot CPU not having access to
> the system topology.
> 
Exactly!


> Instead of fixing that, Intel seems to work at making it worse. At
> some
> point, we're just going to have to give up and move to DT or
> something
> :/
> 
> Please communicate (again), that only knowing the topology/setup of
> the
> system once all the CPUs are online is crap. Once you start bringing
> up
> APs some things are fixed -- if we guessed wrong, we're hosed.
> 
> Specific examples of this that we've ran into in the past are:
> 
>  - does the machine have SMT
>  - is the machine Hybrid
>    (and if so, how many different core types will be have)
> 

It is "good" for me to know this is not the first time we run into such
issues. Less effort for me to sell the problem.
I will bring your suggestions back and see if we can improve this
instead of complicating software.

thanks,
rui

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-20 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-20  3:28 Zhang Rui
2023-02-20  3:28 ` [PATCH V2 1/1] x86/topology: fix erroneous smp_num_siblings on Intel Hybrid platform Zhang Rui
2023-02-20 11:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-21  8:34     ` Zhang, Rui
2023-03-13  2:05       ` Zhang, Rui
2023-02-20 10:36 ` [RFC PATCH V2 0/1] x86: cpu topology fix and question on x86_max_cores Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 14:40   ` Zhang, Rui [this message]
2023-02-20 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 14:33   ` Zhang, Rui
2023-02-20 19:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 22:52       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-21  8:01       ` Zhang, Rui
2023-02-20 22:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-21  8:26       ` Zhang, Rui
2023-03-07 16:10         ` Zhang, Rui
2023-03-08  2:46           ` Brown, Len
2023-02-21  9:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-21 10:09         ` Borislav Petkov

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