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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, peterz@infradead.org, oleg@redhat.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, mingo@kernel.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	riel@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, marcos.souza.org@gmail.com,
	hoeun.ryu@gmail.com, pasha.tatashin@oracle.com,
	gs051095@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com, rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg
Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 09:05:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871seui25q.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180502132026.GB16060@cmpxchg.org> (Johannes Weiner's message of "Wed, 2 May 2018 09:20:26 -0400")

Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> writes:

> Hi Eric,
>
> On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 10:47:08AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> [CC johannes and Tejun as well. I am sorry but my backlog is so huge I
>> will not get to this week.]
>> 
>> On Tue 01-05-18 12:35:16, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> > Recently it was reported that mm_update_next_owner could get into
>> > cases where it was executing it's fallback for_each_process part of
>> > the loop and thus taking up a lot of time.
>> > 
>> > To deal with this replace mm->owner with mm->memcg.  This just reduces
>> > the complexity of everything.  As much as possible I have maintained
>> > the current semantics.  There are two siginificant exceptions.  During
>> > fork the memcg of the process calling fork is charged rather than
>> > init_css_set.  During memory cgroup migration the charges are migrated
>> > not if the process is the owner of the mm, but if the process being
>> > migrated has the same memory cgroup as the mm.
>> > 
>> > I believe it was a bug if init_css_set is charged for memory activity
>> > during fork, and the old behavior was simply a consequence of the new
>> > task not having tsk->cgroup not initialized to it's proper cgroup.
>> > 
>> > Durhing cgroup migration only thread group leaders are allowed to
>> > migrate.  Which means in practice there should only be one.  Linux
>> > tasks created with CLONE_VM are the only exception, but the common
>> > cases are already ruled out.  Processes created with vfork have a
>> > suspended parent and can do nothing but call exec so they should never
>> > show up.  Threads of the same cgroup are not the thread group leader
>> > so also should not show up.  That leaves the old LinuxThreads library
>> > which is probably out of use by now, and someone doing something very
>> > creative with cgroups, and rolling their own threads with CLONE_VM.
>> > So in practice I don't think the difference charge migration will
>> > affect anyone.
>> > 
>> > To ensure that mm->memcg is updated appropriately I have implemented
>> > cgroup "attach" and "fork" methods.  This ensures that at those
>> > points the mm pointed to the task has the appropriate memory cgroup.
>> > 
>> > For simplicity instead of introducing a new mm lock I simply use
>> > exchange on the pointer where the mm->memcg is updated to get
>> > atomic updates.
>> > 
>> > Looking at the history effectively this change is a revert.  The
>> > reason given for adding mm->owner is so that multiple cgroups can be
>> > attached to the same mm.  In the last 8 years a second user of
>> > mm->owner has not appeared.  A feature that has never used, makes the
>> > code more complicated and has horrible worst case performance should
>> > go.
>> > 
>> > Fixes: cf475ad28ac3 ("cgroups: add an owner to the mm_struct")
>> > Reported-by:  Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
>> > Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>
> I really like this. The multiple css per mm future that was referenced
> in cf475ad28ac3's changelog never materialized, so there is no need to
> always go through the task just to have the full css_set.
>
>> > @@ -4827,15 +4813,16 @@ static int mem_cgroup_can_attach(struct cgroup_taskset *tset)
>> >  	if (!move_flags)
>> >  		return 0;
>> >  
>> > -	from = mem_cgroup_from_task(p);
>> > +	from = mem_cgroup_from_css(task_css(p, memory_cgrp_id));
>> >  
>> >  	VM_BUG_ON(from == memcg);
>> >  
>> >  	mm = get_task_mm(p);
>> >  	if (!mm)
>> >  		return 0;
>> > +
>> >  	/* We move charges only when we move a owner of the mm */
>> > -	if (mm->owner == p) {
>> > +	if (mm->memcg == from) {
>> >  		VM_BUG_ON(mc.from);
>> >  		VM_BUG_ON(mc.to);
>> >  		VM_BUG_ON(mc.precharge);
>
> mm->memcg is updated on every single ->attach(), so this can only
> happen to a task when a CLONE_VM sibling is moved out of its
> group. Essentially, in the new scheme the "owner" is whichever task
> with that mm migrated most recently.

Yes.  The charges will only fail to be migrated in some CLONE_VM
situations.

> I agree that it's hard to conjure up a practical usecase that would
> straddle mms like this over multiple cgroups - especially given how
> the memory charges themselves can only belong to one cgroup, too. So
> in practice task->mm->memcg will always be task->css_set[memory].
>
> But could you please update the comment to outline the cornercase?
> "owner" isn't really a thing anymore after this patch.

I can.  How about:
	/* We move charges except for creative uses of CLONE_VM */

> Oh, and mm/debug.c::dump_mm() still refers to mm->owner, that needs to
> be switched to mm->memcg as well.

The kbuild test robot pointed that out as well.

> Aside from that, this looks great to me. For the fixed version:
>
> Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>

Will do and will repost in a bit.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-02 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-26 11:00 [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 11:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] exit: Move read_unlock() up in mm_update_next_owner() Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:01   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-26 11:00 ` [PATCH 2/4] exit: Use rcu instead of get_task_struct() " Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 11:00 ` [PATCH 3/4] exit: Rename assign_new_owner label " Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 11:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] exit: Lockless iteration over task list " Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 12:35   ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-26 13:52     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-26 15:56         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-26 16:04         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:29       ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-26 16:11         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 13:07 ` [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable Michal Hocko
2018-04-26 13:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-26 14:07   ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:10     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-26 16:19   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-26 19:28     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-27  7:08       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-27 18:05         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-01 17:22           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-01 17:35             ` [RFC][PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-02  8:47               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-02 13:20                 ` Johannes Weiner
2018-05-02 14:05                   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2018-05-02 19:21                   ` [PATCH] " Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-02 21:04                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-02 21:35                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-03 13:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-03 14:39                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 14:20                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 14:36                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 14:54                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 15:49                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 16:22                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 16:40                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 17:26                                     ` [PATCH 0/2] mm->owner to mm->memcg fixes Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 17:26                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] memcg: Update the mm->memcg maintenance to work when !CONFIG_MMU Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 17:27                                       ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Close the race between migration and installing bprm->mm as mm Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-09 14:51                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-10  3:00                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-10 12:14                                       ` [PATCH 0/2] mm->owner to mm->memcg fixes Michal Hocko
2018-05-10 12:18                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-22 12:57                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-23 19:46                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-24 11:10                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 21:16                                               ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-24 23:37                                                 ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-30 12:17                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 18:41                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01  1:57                                                     ` [PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 14:52                                                       ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] memcg: Require every task that uses an mm to migrate together Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 14:53                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] memcg: Ensure every task that uses an mm is in the same memory cgroup Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 16:50                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-06-01 18:11                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 19:16                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-06-04 13:01                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 18:47                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-06-04 19:11                                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-06 11:13                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-07 11:42                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-07 12:19                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 14:53                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] memcgl: Remove dead code now that all tasks of an mm share a memcg Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 14:07                                                     ` [PATCH 0/2] mm->owner to mm->memcg fixes Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 21:17                                               ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-30 11:52                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 17:43                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-07 14:33                                     ` [PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-08  3:15                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-09 14:40                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-10  3:09                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-10  4:03                                             ` [RFC][PATCH] cgroup: Don't mess with tasks in exec Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-10 12:15                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-10 12:35                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2018-05-10 12:38                                             ` [PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 11:07                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-05 16:54                     ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-07 23:18                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-08  2:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-09 21:00                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-02 23:59               ` [RFC][PATCH] " Balbir Singh
2018-05-03 15:11                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04  4:59                   ` Balbir Singh
2018-05-03 10:52           ` [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable Kirill Tkhai
2018-06-01  1:07   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 13:57     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 14:32       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 15:02         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 15:25           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-04  6:54             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 14:31               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-05  8:15                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-05  8:48             ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-06-05 15:36               ` Eric W. Biederman

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