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From: Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>
To: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>
Cc: Marijn Suijten <marijn.suijten@somainline.org>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] clk: Warn (and therefore taint the kernel) on clk_ignore_unused
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 15:16:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87241686-90b5-44fe-b4e9-1a59451e3575@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93b5004dacfe1151ca3abbb0fa31eaa6.sboyd@kernel.org>

On 3/3/25 14:48, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> Quoting Konrad Dybcio (2025-02-01 08:52:30)
>> From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
>>
>> If any sort of ignore_unused is in place, it means one of:
>>
>> * power is going to waste
>> * the platform description is incomplete (missing consumer-provider
>>    relationships)
>> * the platform description is just broken
>>
>> Many people will happily declare their job done when a platform
>> magically happens to work as they make use of bootloader-enabled
>> resources, which then leads to double or triple the amount of work
>> of another person, as they attempt to reduce the unnecessary power
>> drainage and/or ensure stabiility throughout a suspend-resume cycle.
>>
>> Issue a good ol' warning (and taint the kernel) to make such cases
>> obvious and hopefully draw more attention to it. This way, it'll be
>> easier to avoid effectively untested code or DT description getting
>> merged into the kernel, or worse, going into production.
>>
>> The clock subsystem plays a crucial part in this quest, as even if
>> the clock controllers themselves don't draw a lot of power when on
>> (comparatively), improper description of clock requirements has been
>> the #1 cause of incomplete/incorrect devicetree bindings in my
>> experience.
> 
> What is a user supposed to do about this warning stack? We already print
> a warning. I don't see us dumping the stack when a driver is unfinished
> and doesn't implement runtime PM to save power.
> 

Agreed, I don't think this is tremendously helpful given that it does 
not even tell you what part is incomplete, it's just a broad warning for 
the entire system.

Assuming you have a clock provided that can be used to turn clocks off, 
and you did not boot with 'clk_ignore_unused' set on the kernel command 
line, then you should discover pretty quickly which driver is not 
managing the clocks as it should no?
-- 
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-03 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-01 16:52 Konrad Dybcio
2025-03-03 22:48 ` Stephen Boyd
2025-03-03 23:16   ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2025-03-03 23:17     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-03-04 19:34       ` Stephen Boyd
2025-05-22 19:47         ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-03  0:31           ` Brian Masney
2025-06-03  1:20       ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-06-03  1:23     ` Bjorn Andersson

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