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From: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
To: Roland Kuhn <rkuhn@e18.physik.tu-muenchen.de>
Cc: Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Long file names in VFAT broken with iocharset=utf8
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 06:01:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877irk5ox8.fsf@duaron.myhome.or.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BD281C0E-5278-4944-ABF0-AF692325945C@e18.physik.tu-muenchen.de> (Roland Kuhn's message of "Mon\, 7 May 2007 21\:59\:15 +0200")

Roland Kuhn <rkuhn@e18.physik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:

>> Roland Kuhn <rkuhn@e18.physik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
>>> PATH_MAX specifically counts _bytes_ not characters, so UTF-8 does
>>> not matter. ISTR that PATH_MAX was 256 at some point, but I just
>>> quickly grepped /usr/include and found various mention of 4096, so
>>> where's the central repository for this configuration item? A hard-
>>> coded value of 256 somewhere inside the kernel smells like a bug.
>>
>> There is a nasty issue here. FAT is limited by 255 unicode chars or  
>> so.
>> So, we would need to count number of unicode chars of filename.
>>
> No, we don't. At least not when looking at the POSIX spec, which  
> explicitly mentions _bytes_ and _not_ unicode characters. So, to be  
> on the safe side, FAT filesystems would need to support a NAME_MAX of  
> roughly 6*255+3=1533 bytes (not to mention the hassles of forbidden  
> sequences, etc.; do we need to count zero-width characters?) and  
> report it through pathconf() to userspace, then userspace could do  
> with that whatever it liked.
>
> What happened to: "file names are just sequences of octets, excluding  
> '/' and UL"? Adding unicode parsing to the kernel is completely  
> useless _and_ a big trouble maker.

The UCS2 in FAT is just on-disk format of the filename. So...
-- 
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-07 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-07 17:51 Andrey Borzenkov
2007-05-07 18:07 ` Roland Kuhn
2007-05-07 18:17   ` Andreas Schwab
2007-05-07 18:43     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-05-07 18:52       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2007-05-07 18:27   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2007-05-07 19:34     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-07 19:59     ` Roland Kuhn
2007-05-07 21:01       ` OGAWA Hirofumi [this message]
2007-05-07 21:12       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-09 10:27       ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-05-08  4:43 Albert Cahalan
2007-05-08  8:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-09 15:34   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-09 15:57     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-05-09 23:49       ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found] <8ipOe-5KI-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-08 16:21 ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] ` <8ityz-2Xz-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8iWqS-5Ba-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8iWKp-619-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <8j4eK-QR-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-10 14:49         ` Bodo Eggert
2007-05-10 14:59           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-10 16:14             ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.

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