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From: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
To: Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: Long file names in VFAT broken with iocharset=utf8
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 16:49:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Hm9xo-0000vV-Po@be1.lrz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8j4eK-QR-13@gated-at.bofh.it>

Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/9/07, Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru> wrote:

>> 3. this still does not answer how can I *create* long name from within Linux.
> 
> WTF? These names are too annoying to use, even if there
> weren't this limit. Anything over about 29 characters is in
> need of a rename. (that'd be 58 bytes for you, which is OK)
> The limit is already 4 times larger than what is reasonable.

Just because you limit yourself to 80 chars minus "ls -l"-clutter, this is
no reason why I shouldn't use long filenames. If I need to handle these
filenames, I can enlarge the terminal window or read the next line.

E.g.: I have a music file named "artist - title.ext", where the artist
name is 103 characters long, using abbreviations. In order to enter that
name, I have to press seven keys, including the escape character.
There is nothing unreasonable in using that name.

If I could not use these filenames, I'd have to use e.g. numbers instead of
filenames and a database containing the mapping from name to number,
duplicating the function of a directory. That's bullsh... . You should rather
bump NAME_MAX and, if you are concerned about legacy applications, make it
optional. Having some names to be illegal becaue of their length on a
filesystem not allowing command.com metacharacters is not a problem.
-- 
Funny quotes:
3. On the other hand, you have different fingers.

Friß, Spammer: EhyjCDo@iEtm.7eggert.dyndns.org TK@cvhuFFu.7eggert.dyndns.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-10 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <8ipOe-5KI-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-08 16:21 ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] ` <8ityz-2Xz-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8iWqS-5Ba-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8iWKp-619-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <8j4eK-QR-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-10 14:49         ` Bodo Eggert [this message]
2007-05-10 14:59           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-10 16:14             ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-05-08  4:43 Albert Cahalan
2007-05-08  8:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-09 15:34   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-09 15:57     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-05-09 23:49       ` Albert Cahalan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-07 17:51 Andrey Borzenkov
2007-05-07 18:07 ` Roland Kuhn
2007-05-07 18:17   ` Andreas Schwab
2007-05-07 18:43     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-05-07 18:52       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2007-05-07 18:27   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2007-05-07 19:34     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-07 19:59     ` Roland Kuhn
2007-05-07 21:01       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2007-05-07 21:12       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-09 10:27       ` Andrey Borzenkov

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