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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	jolsa@redhat.com, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	Ivan Delalande <colona@arista.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] signal: Restore the stop PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 08:58:28 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d0nv4twr.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190213143852.GC9356@redhat.com> (Oleg Nesterov's message of "Wed, 13 Feb 2019 15:38:52 +0100")

Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:

> sorry for noise, but after I read the changelog I have a minor nit,
> feel free to ignore...
>
> On 02/12, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>
>> Skipping past dequeue_signal when we know a fatal signal has already
>> been delivered resulted in SIGKILL remaining pending and
>> TIF_SIGPENDING remaining set.  This in turn caused the
>> scheduler to not sleep in PTACE_EVENT_EXIT as it figured
>> a fatal signal was pending.
>
> Yes, but the status of TIF_SIGPENDING doesn't matter. However I agree
> with recalc_sigpending() added by this patch, simply because this is what
> the "normal" dequeue_signal() paths do.
>
>> This also caused ptrace_freeze_traced
>> in ptrace_check_attach to fail because it left a per thread
>> SIGKILL pending which is what fatal_signal_pending tests for.
>
> this is possible too, but in the likely case ptrace_check_attach() won't
> be even called exactly because the tracee won't stop and thus waitpid()
> won't report WIFSTOPPED. And even if waitpid() "wins" the race and debugger
> calls ptrace(), most probably ptrace_freeze_traced() will fail because
> task_is_traced() will be false.
>
> I think this part of the changelog looks a bit confusing. It doesn't matter
> why ptrace_check_attach() fails, it must fail if the tracee didn't stop.
>
> PTACE_EVENT_EXIT won't stop and thus this event won't be reported, that is all.

There might be a better way to say it.  What I meant to convey is that
in my testing I could get PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT to stop by clearing
TIF_SIGPENDING (and leaving SIGKILL in pending).  That was insufficient
to fix the bug.  Without SIGKILL in pending ptrace_check_attach would
fail when the process was stopped in PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT.



Or in short it really bugs me that we have to have signal_group_exit
and fatal_signal_pending not in agreement after in do_exit to make the code
work.  It bothers me because fatal_signal_pending and signal_group_exit
are in all other cases just different ways to ask the same question.

Eric



  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-13 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-01 16:48 perf_event_open+clone = unkillable process Dmitry Vyukov
2019-02-01 17:06 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-02-02 18:30   ` Jiri Olsa
2019-02-03 15:21     ` Jiri Olsa
2019-02-04  9:27   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-04  9:38     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-02-04 17:38       ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-05  3:00         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-05  4:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-05  6:07             ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-05 15:26               ` [RFC][PATCH] signal: Store pending signal exit in tsk.jobctl not in tsk.pending Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-06 12:09                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-02-06 21:47                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-06 18:07                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-02-06 22:25                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-07  6:42                     ` [PATCH 0/2]: Fixing unkillable processes caused by SIGHUP timers Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-07  6:43                       ` [PATCH 1/2] signal: Always notice exiting tasks Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-11 14:13                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-02-12  0:42                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-12  8:18                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-12 16:50                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-02-13  3:58                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-13  4:09                                 ` [PATCH] signal: Restore the stop PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-13 13:55                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-02-13 14:38                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-02-13 14:58                                     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2019-02-07  6:44                       ` [PATCH 2/2] signal: Better detection of synchronous signals Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-11 15:18                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-02-12  0:01                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-02-12 17:21                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2019-02-07 11:46                       ` [PATCH 0/2]: Fixing unkillable processes caused by SIGHUP timers Dmitry Vyukov

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