From: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>
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Stuart Clark <stuclar@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 03/11] xdp: Copy buffers with restricted lifetime
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 05:27:51 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eccra46g.fsf@all.your.base.are.belong.to.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <avOZa6jLnmvYkk2H@devvm16445.scu0.facebook.com>
Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com> writes:
> On 11/10, Björn Töpel wrote:
>> diff --git a/include/net/xdp.h b/include/net/xdp.h
>> index 07231adfb5f8..1105bb9e3292 100644
>> --- a/include/net/xdp.h
>> +++ b/include/net/xdp.h
>> @@ -81,6 +81,16 @@ enum xdp_buff_flags {
>> * XDP program is not attached.
>> */
>> XDP_FLAGS_FRAGS_UNREADABLE = BIT(2),
>> + /* Internal: the head netmem and the shared info are in &xdp_buff.ext.
>> + * Not copied to xdp_frames or skbs.
>> + */
>> + XDP_FLAGS_EXT = BIT(3),
>> +};
>> +
>> +/* For a head buffer that cannot hold kernel data, see xdp_init_buff_netmem() */
>> +struct xdp_buff_ext {
>> + netmem_ref netmem;
>
> nit: netmem -> head ? and the same for xdp_init_buff_netmem netmem arg?
Yup, will fix.
>> @@ -138,7 +153,7 @@ static __always_inline void xdp_buff_set_frag_unreadable(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
>>
>> static __always_inline u32 xdp_buff_get_skb_flags(const struct xdp_buff *xdp)
>> {
>> - return xdp->flags;
>> + return xdp->flags & ~XDP_FLAGS_EXT;
>
> The only consumer is xdp_update_skb_frags_info, so probably not worth
> filtering out XDP_FLAGS_EXT here? Or is it for
> xdp_update_frame_from_buff? Can we explicitly clear it at the caller?
It was for xdp_update_frame_from_buff(), but looking closer EXT never
gets there...
I'll drop the mask. Thanks!
>> diff --git a/net/core/devmem.c b/net/core/devmem.c
>> index 8f190b574beb..dea4a4a17e86 100644
>> --- a/net/core/devmem.c
>> +++ b/net/core/devmem.c
>> @@ -698,5 +698,5 @@ static const struct memory_provider_ops dmabuf_devmem_ops = {
>> .release_netmem = mp_dmabuf_devmem_release_page,
>> .nl_fill = mp_dmabuf_devmem_nl_fill,
>> .uninstall = mp_dmabuf_devmem_uninstall,
>> - .caps = MP_CAP_FRAG,
>> + .caps = MP_CAP_FRAG | MP_CAP_RETAIN,
>
> Not sure I understand this part, can you explain?
> These are MP_CAP_RETAIN because they are unreadable?
No, RETAIN is about lifetime: the stack may hold page pool references
after the RX poll, e.g. skbs on a TCP receive queue. That's how devmem
and zcrx work; without it the stack would try to copy them, and they'd
trip the DEBUG_NET check in skb_add_rx_frag_netmem().
A provider without RETAIN gets copied, so it must be readable. I'll try
to make that more clear in the kdoc, and probably refuse a provider that
is neither.
>> diff --git a/net/core/xdp.c b/net/core/xdp.c
>> index 1d679e8fd649..0cf46d492d91 100644
>> --- a/net/core/xdp.c
>> +++ b/net/core/xdp.c
>> @@ -23,6 +23,8 @@
>> #include <trace/events/xdp.h>
>> #include <net/xdp_sock_drv.h>
>>
>> +#include "dev.h"
>> +
>> #define REG_STATE_NEW 0x0
>> #define REG_STATE_REGISTERED 0x1
>> #define REG_STATE_UNREGISTERED 0x2
>> @@ -559,10 +561,41 @@ void xdp_return_buff(struct xdp_buff *xdp)
>> xdp->rxq->mem.type, true, xdp);
>>
>> out:
>> - __xdp_return(virt_to_netmem(xdp->data), xdp->rxq->mem.type, true, xdp);
>> + __xdp_return(xdp_buff_head_netmem(xdp), xdp->rxq->mem.type, true, xdp);
>> }
>> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(xdp_return_buff);
>>
>> +bool __xdp_buff_needs_copy(const struct xdp_buff *xdp)
>> +{
>> + const struct skb_shared_info *sinfo;
>> + u32 i;
>> +
>> + /* Provider buffers come only from page pool queues */
>> + if (xdp->rxq->mem.type != MEM_TYPE_PAGE_POOL)
>> + return false;
>> + if (!netmem_can_retain(xdp_buff_head_netmem(xdp)))
>> + return true;
>> + if (likely(!xdp_buff_has_frags(xdp)))
>> + return false;
>> +
>> + sinfo = xdp_get_shared_info_from_buff(xdp);
>> + for (i = 0; i < sinfo->nr_frags; i++) {
>> + if (!netmem_can_retain(skb_frag_netmem(&sinfo->frags[i])))
>> + return true;
>
> Do we want/need to go that deep? Can we have a skb-like assumptions that
> mixing retain and non-retain in the same shinfo is not allowed?
Yep, let's make that the rule. I'll remove the deep checks.
Björn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-11 13:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-10 10:20 [PATCH net-next v1 00/11] xsk: Zero copy through page-pool memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 01/11] net: Get skb fragment addresses through netmem Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 02/11] net: Add memory provider capabilities Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:19 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 12:41 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 03/11] xdp: Copy buffers with restricted lifetime Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 22:32 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 13:27 ` Björn Töpel [this message]
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 04/11] xsk: Allocate UMEM chunks through page_pool Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 15:08 ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-11 13:51 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:02 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 13:59 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 05/11] xsk: Install UMEM page pool providers in the core Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:50 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 14:01 ` Björn Töpel
2026-11-11 8:59 ` Magnus Karlsson
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 06/11] page_pool: Coordinate refill with memory providers Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 23:51 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 07/11] xsk: Deliver provider chunks without copying Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 08/11] eth: fbnic: Support XDP redirect Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 09/11] eth: fbnic: Use netmem for RX headers and XDP_TX Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 10/11] eth: fbnic: Support RX buffers it cannot split Björn Töpel
2026-11-10 10:20 ` [PATCH net-next v1 11/11] eth: fbnic: Support AF_XDP page pool zero copy Björn Töpel
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