From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Seth Forshee" <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
"Stéphane Graber" <stgraber@ubuntu.com>,
serge@hallyn.com, "Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: user namespace and fully visible proc and sys mounts
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2016 15:53:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oaar2ryz.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160306082820.GA1917@mail.hallyn.com> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Sun, 6 Mar 2016 02:28:20 -0600")
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> writes:
> Hi,
>
> So we've been over this many times... but unfortunately there is more
> breakage to report. Regular privileged and unprivileged containers
> work all right for us. But running an unprivileged container inside a
> privileged container is blocked.
>
> When creating privileged containers, lxc by default does a few things:
> it mounts some fuse.lxcfs files over procfiles include /proc/meminfo and
> /proc/uptime. It mounts proc rw but /proc/sysrq-trigger ro as well as
> moves /proc/sys/net out of the way, bind-mounts /proc/sys readonly
> (because this container is not in a user namespace) then moves
> /proc/sys/net back. Finally it mounts sys ro but bind-mounts
> /sys/devices/virtual/net as writeable.
>
> If any of these are left enabled, unprivileged containers can't be
> started. If all are disabled, then they can be.
>
> Can we find a way to make these not block remounts in child user
> namespaces? A boot flag, a procfs and sysfs mount option, a sysctl?
Are any of these overmounts done for the purpose of security? It
appears the /proc/sys and /sys mounts being made read-only is for that
purpose.
If none of the mounts are for secuirty the easy solution that works
today is to also mount /proc and /sys somewhere else in your container
so that the permission check for mounting a new copy passes.
That said /proc/sys appears to be a show stopper in this scheme. As the
root of your privileged container can enter your unprivileged container
it can bypass your read-only /proc/sys by mounting a new copy of proc if
we allow the relaxation you are requesting.
Therefore the only choice on the table (and I don't have a clue how
realistic it is) is to have a variant of proc with just files describing
processes. Call it processfs. That would not need the current
restrictions.
As for sysfs I am drawing a blank about what might be possible.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-06 22:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-06 8:28 Serge E. Hallyn
2016-03-06 21:53 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2016-03-06 23:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-03-07 2:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 3:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-03-07 3:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 5:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-03-08 0:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-08 0:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-08 4:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
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