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From: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug #14015] pty regressed again, breaking expect and gcc's testsuite
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:29:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pra89sgp.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0909021429360.3590@eeepc.linux-foundation.org> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:23:28 -1000 (HST)")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Tuesday 01 September 2009, Mikael Pettersson wrote:
>> > 
>> > Starting with 2.6.31-rc8 and reverting
>> > 
>> > 85dfd81dc57e8183a277ddd7a56aa65c96f3f487 pty: fix data loss when stopped (^S/^Q)
>> > d945cb9cce20ac7143c2de8d88b187f62db99bdc pty: Rework the pty layer to use the normal buffering logic
>> > 
>> > in that order gives me a kernel that works on both x86 and powerpc64.
>> > 
>> > So the bug is definitely limited to the pty buffering logic change.
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for this information, adding somme CCs to the list.
>
> Mikael, is there any way to get the gcc testsuite to show the "expected" 
> vs "result" cases when the failures occur, so that we can see what the 
> pattern is ("it drops one character every 8kB" or something like that).
>
> However, I get the feeling that it's really the same bug that 
> OGAWA-san already fixed - and that his fix just doesn't always do a 100% 
> of the job. 
>
> So what Ogawa did was to make sure that we flush any pending data whenever 
> we;re checking "do we have any data left". He did that by calling out to 
> tty_flush_to_ldisc(), which should flush the data through to the ldisc. 
>
> The keyword here being "should". In flush_to_ldisc(), we have at least one 
> case where we say "we'll delay it a bit more":
>
> 		if (!tty->receive_room) {
> 			schedule_delayed_work(&tty->buf.work, 1);
> 			break;
> 		}
>
> and while I think this _should_ be ok (because if there is no 
> receive-room, then we'll hopefully always return non-zero from 
> "input_available_p()". However, we do have this really odd case that the 
> reader side will do "n_tty_set_room()" onlyl _after_ having checked for 
> input_available_p(), and so maybe we do sometimes trigger the case that
>
>  - input_available_p() tries to flush to the input buffer before checking 
>    how much data is available, by calling 'tty_flush_to_ldisc()'
>
>  - but 'tty_flush_to_ldisc()' won't do anything, because tty->receive_room 
>    is zero.
>
>  - so now input_available_p will say "I don't have any data", even though 
>    there was data in the write buffers.
>
>  - we'll notice that the other end has hung up, and return EOF/EIO.
>
>  - which is very WRONG, because the other end may have hung up, but before 
>    it did that, it wrote data that is still in the write queues, and we 
>    should have returned that data.
>
> Anyway, I'm not at all sure that the "receive_room == 0" case can happen 
> at all, but maybe it can. Ogawa-san?

If I'm not missing, I think it doesn't have big change with old
code. But I would need to check more deeply.

Um.., If "receive_room == 0 && tty->read_cnt == 0" is possible, I wonder
why reverting buffer handling fixes the problem.

Well, anyway, I'd like to reproduce this on my machine. Could you tell
me the version of tools? I guess gcc testsuite using the gcc's source
(svn revision?), expect, dejagnu, tcl. (BTW, I'm using debian
testing. If it can be reproduced on kvm, I can install distro version
which you are using)

Thanks.
-- 
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-03 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-25 20:00 2.6.31-rc7-git2: Reported regressions from 2.6.30 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:00 ` [Bug #13645] NULL pointer dereference at (null) (level2_spare_pgt) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13733] 2.6.31-rc2: irq 16: nobody cared Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13819] system freeze when switching to console Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13740] X server crashes with 2.6.31-rc2 when options are changed Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13809] oprofile: possible circular locking dependency detected Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13836] suspend script fails, related to stdout? Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 11:10   ` Tomas M.
2009-08-26 20:56     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13848] iwlwifi (4965) regression since 2.6.30 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13869] Radeon framebuffer (w/o KMS) corruption at boot Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13906] Huawei E169 GPRS connection causes Ooops Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13935] 2.6.31-rcX breaks Apple MightyMouse (Bluetooth version) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13941] x86 Geode issue Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 23:37   ` Martin-Éric Racine
2009-08-26 20:59     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13943] WARNING: at net/mac80211/mlme.c:2292 with ath5k Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  6:39   ` Fabio Comolli
2009-08-26 21:00     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13942] Troubles with AoE and uninitialized object Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13940] iwlagn and sky2 stopped working, ACPI-related Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  0:00   ` Ricardo Jorge da Fonseca Marques Ferreira
2009-08-26 20:58     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13948] ath5k broken after suspend-to-ram Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13947] Libertas: Association request to the driver failed Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13960] rtl8187 not connect to wifi Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13950] Oops when USB Serial disconnected while in use Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13987] Received NMI interrupt at resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14012] latest git fried my x86_64 imac Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  0:28   ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-08-26 21:06     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 21:58       ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-08-27 18:01       ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-08-27 19:45         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 20:47           ` Randy Dunlap
2009-08-27 21:01             ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14011] Kernel paging request failed in kmem_cache_alloc Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  6:17   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-26 14:01     ` Matthias Dahl
2009-08-26 14:59       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-26 15:08         ` Eric Paris
2009-08-26 21:03         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14013] hd don't show up Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14016] mm/ipw2200 regression Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  6:09   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-26  8:27     ` Johannes Weiner
2009-08-26  9:37       ` Mel Gorman
2009-08-26 14:44         ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-27  9:11           ` Zhu Yi
2009-08-27  9:45             ` Mel Gorman
2009-08-28  3:42           ` ipw2200: firmware DMA loading rework Zhu Yi
2009-08-30 12:37             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-02 17:48               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-02 18:02                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-09-02 18:26                   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-19 13:25                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-21  8:58                       ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-21  9:59                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-21 10:08                           ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-21 10:46                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-21 10:56                               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-09-21 13:12                                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-21 13:37                                   ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-21 11:02                               ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-03 12:49                   ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-05 14:28                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-08 11:00                       ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-08 20:39                         ` Simon Kitching
2009-08-26  9:51       ` [Bug #14016] mm/ipw2200 regression Johannes Weiner
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14015] pty regressed again, breaking expect and gcc's testsuite Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 19:54   ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-08-28 18:56     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-28 20:23       ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-08-29 14:16         ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-08-29 19:01           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-31 13:22             ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-01  1:34               ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-01 18:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-03  1:23                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-03 11:29                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi [this message]
2009-09-03 21:00                       ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-04  0:01                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04  1:41                         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-04  1:52                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 15:28                         ` Alan Cox
2009-09-04 17:33                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-03 20:27                     ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-04 13:23                     ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-04 17:30                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 17:53                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 17:55                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 18:11                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 19:11                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 19:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-05 10:46                                   ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-05 20:29                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-05 22:42                                       ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-05 17:00                                 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-05 18:06                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-05 18:56                                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-05 21:56                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-09-05 22:46                                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-04 21:12                               ` Alan Cox
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14017] _end symbol missing from Symbol.map Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14018] kernel freezes, inotify problem Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14057] Strange network timeouts w/ e100 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14031] dvb_usb_af9015: Oops on hotplugging Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 23:57   ` Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
2009-08-26  0:03     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14030] Kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000008, pty-related Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  0:16   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-26 21:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14058] Oops in fsnotify Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14060] oops: sysfs_remove_link and i915 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14062] Failure to boot as xen guest Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-01 19:47   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14061] Crash due to buggy flat_phys_pkg_id Rafael J. Wysocki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-19 20:20 2.6.31-rc6-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.30 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-19 20:27 ` [Bug #14015] pty regressed again, breaking expect and gcc's testsuite Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-24 10:08   ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-08-24 18:32     ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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