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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
Cc: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug #14015] pty regressed again, breaking expect and gcc's testsuite
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0909051059360.6727@eeepc.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pra55nsr.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp>



On Sun, 6 Sep 2009, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:
> 
> This is not meaning to object to your patch though, I think we would be
> good to fix pty_space(), not leaving as wrong. With fix it, I guess we
> don't get strange behavior in the near of buffer limit.

I'd actually rather not make that function any more complicated.

Just make the rules be very simple:

 - the pty layer has ~64kB buffering, and if you just blindly do a 
   ->write() op, you can see how many characters you were able to write.

 - before doing a ->write() op, you can ask how many characters you are 
   guaranteed to be able to write by doing a "->write_room()" call.

..and then the bug literally was just that "pty_write()" was confused, and 
thought that it should do that "write_room()" thing, which it really 
shouldn't ever have done.

So I really think that the true fix is to just remove the code from 
pty_write(), and not do anything more complicated. I'll also commit the 
change to write '\r\n' as one single string, because quite frankly, it's 
just stupid to do it as two characters, but at that point it's just a 
cleanup.

> Also, it seems the non-n_tty path doesn't use tty_write_room() check,
> and instead it just try to write and check written bytes which returned
> by tty->ops->write().

.. and I think that's fine. I think write_room() should be used sparingly, 
and only by code that cares about being able to fit at least 'n' 
characters in the tty buffers. In fact, I think even n_tty would likely in 
general be better off without it (and just check the return value), but 
because of the stateful character translation (that doesn't actually keep 
any state around, it just wants to expand things as it goes along), and 
because of historical reasons, we'll just keep it using write_room.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-05 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-25 20:00 2.6.31-rc7-git2: Reported regressions from 2.6.30 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:00 ` [Bug #13645] NULL pointer dereference at (null) (level2_spare_pgt) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13740] X server crashes with 2.6.31-rc2 when options are changed Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13809] oprofile: possible circular locking dependency detected Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13733] 2.6.31-rc2: irq 16: nobody cared Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13819] system freeze when switching to console Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13848] iwlwifi (4965) regression since 2.6.30 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13836] suspend script fails, related to stdout? Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 11:10   ` Tomas M.
2009-08-26 20:56     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13906] Huawei E169 GPRS connection causes Ooops Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13935] 2.6.31-rcX breaks Apple MightyMouse (Bluetooth version) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13869] Radeon framebuffer (w/o KMS) corruption at boot Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13942] Troubles with AoE and uninitialized object Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13940] iwlagn and sky2 stopped working, ACPI-related Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  0:00   ` Ricardo Jorge da Fonseca Marques Ferreira
2009-08-26 20:58     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13941] x86 Geode issue Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 23:37   ` Martin-Éric Racine
2009-08-26 20:59     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13943] WARNING: at net/mac80211/mlme.c:2292 with ath5k Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  6:39   ` Fabio Comolli
2009-08-26 21:00     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13948] ath5k broken after suspend-to-ram Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13947] Libertas: Association request to the driver failed Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13950] Oops when USB Serial disconnected while in use Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13960] rtl8187 not connect to wifi Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #13987] Received NMI interrupt at resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14012] latest git fried my x86_64 imac Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  0:28   ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-08-26 21:06     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 21:58       ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-08-27 18:01       ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-08-27 19:45         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 20:47           ` Randy Dunlap
2009-08-27 21:01             ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14011] Kernel paging request failed in kmem_cache_alloc Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  6:17   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-26 14:01     ` Matthias Dahl
2009-08-26 14:59       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-26 15:08         ` Eric Paris
2009-08-26 21:03         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14016] mm/ipw2200 regression Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  6:09   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-26  8:27     ` Johannes Weiner
2009-08-26  9:37       ` Mel Gorman
2009-08-26 14:44         ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-27  9:11           ` Zhu Yi
2009-08-27  9:45             ` Mel Gorman
2009-08-28  3:42           ` ipw2200: firmware DMA loading rework Zhu Yi
2009-08-30 12:37             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-02 17:48               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-02 18:02                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-09-02 18:26                   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-19 13:25                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-21  8:58                       ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-21  9:59                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-21 10:08                           ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-21 10:46                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-21 10:56                               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-09-21 13:12                                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-09-21 13:37                                   ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-21 11:02                               ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-03 12:49                   ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-05 14:28                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-08 11:00                       ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-08 20:39                         ` Simon Kitching
2009-08-26  9:51       ` [Bug #14016] mm/ipw2200 regression Johannes Weiner
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14015] pty regressed again, breaking expect and gcc's testsuite Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 19:54   ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-08-28 18:56     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-28 20:23       ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-08-29 14:16         ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-08-29 19:01           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-31 13:22             ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-01  1:34               ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-01 18:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-03  1:23                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-03 11:29                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-03 21:00                       ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-04  0:01                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04  1:41                         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-04  1:52                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 15:28                         ` Alan Cox
2009-09-04 17:33                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-03 20:27                     ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-04 13:23                     ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-04 17:30                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 17:53                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 17:55                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 18:11                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 19:11                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-04 19:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-05 10:46                                   ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-05 20:29                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-05 22:42                                       ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-05 17:00                                 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-05 18:06                                   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-09-05 18:56                                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-05 21:56                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-09-05 22:46                                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-09-04 21:12                               ` Alan Cox
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14013] hd don't show up Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14017] _end symbol missing from Symbol.map Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14018] kernel freezes, inotify problem Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14030] Kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000008, pty-related Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26  0:16   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-08-26 21:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14057] Strange network timeouts w/ e100 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14031] dvb_usb_af9015: Oops on hotplugging Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 23:57   ` Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
2009-08-26  0:03     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14060] oops: sysfs_remove_link and i915 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14058] Oops in fsnotify Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14061] Crash due to buggy flat_phys_pkg_id Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-25 20:34 ` [Bug #14062] Failure to boot as xen guest Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-01 19:47   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-19 20:20 2.6.31-rc6-git5: Reported regressions from 2.6.30 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-19 20:27 ` [Bug #14015] pty regressed again, breaking expect and gcc's testsuite Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-24 10:08   ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-08-24 18:32     ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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