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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
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Cc: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
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	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] rust: hrtimer: document deadlock when starting a timer in its handler
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 11:31:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87se411b4q.fsf@t14s.mail-host-address-is-not-set> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DKY292V0LWJN.1L3HG02NBW6K5@garyguo.net>

"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> writes:

> On Tue Aug 25, 2026 at 1:16 PM BST, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> The state machine documentation states that for pointer types that
>> implement `Clone`, the `start` operation may be issued while the timer
>> is in the **running** state, and that it is then equivalent to the
>> `restart` operation. That only holds when the operation is issued from
>> outside the timer handler.
>>
>> The `start` operation returns a `HrTimerHandle`, and dropping the
>> handle cancels the timer with `hrtimer_cancel()`, which blocks until a
>> running handler has returned. When `start` is issued from within the
>> handler, the handle is also dropped within the handler, so the cancel
>> waits for the very handler that issues it, and the handler deadlocks.
>
> That's not always true, you can start timer and store its handle elsewhere.
>
> I think the proper wording is that "cancelling a timer from within the timer
> handler will lead to deadlock".

Right, I'll update the wording and comment.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg



  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-26  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-25 12:16 [PATCH 0/6] hrtimer: add an expiry injecting callback variant Andreas Hindborg
2026-08-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 1/6] hrtimer: add " Andreas Hindborg
2026-09-29 20:56   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-30 13:14     ` Gary Guo
2026-09-30 21:43       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-09-30 23:29         ` Gary Guo
2026-10-01 13:45           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 2/6] drm/i915/pmu: use the expiry injecting hrtimer callback Andreas Hindborg
2026-08-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 3/6] rust: hrtimer: use the expiry injecting callback variant Andreas Hindborg
2026-08-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 4/6] rust: hrtimer: restrict expires() to exclusive access Andreas Hindborg
2026-08-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 5/6] rust: hrtimer: document deadlock when starting a timer in its handler Andreas Hindborg
2026-08-25 13:31   ` Gary Guo
2026-08-26  9:31     ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2026-08-25 12:16 ` [PATCH 6/6] rust: hrtimer: Make HrTimer repr(transparent) Andreas Hindborg
2026-08-25 13:33   ` Gary Guo
2026-08-26  9:30     ` Andreas Hindborg

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