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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrey Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] mnt: add ability to clone mntns starting with the current root
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:26:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87siizshav.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXgssZfi3BirQ=K7-vrPyEh5AzFX2pF+yj76Ngi0sf7Yw@mail.gmail.com> (Andy Lutomirski's message of "Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:02:53 -0700")

Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> writes:

> Why should MNT_LOCKED on submounts be enforced?
>
> Is it because, if you retain a reference to the detached tree, then
> you can see under the submounts?  

Yes. MNT_DETACH is a recursive operation that detaches all of the mount
and all of it's submounts.  Which means you can see under the submounts
if you have a reference to a detached mount.

> If so, let's fix *that*.  Because
> otherwise the whole model of pivot_root + detach will break.

I am not certain what you are referring to.  pivot_root doesn't
manipulate the mount tree so you can see under anything.

What I believe is the appropriate fix is to fail umount2(...,MNT_DETACH)
if there are any referenced mount points being detached that have a
locked submount.

> Also, damn it, we need change_the_ns_root instead of pivot_root.  I
> doubt that any container programs actually want to keep the old root
> attached after pivot_root.

Shrug.  Except for chroot_fs_refs() pivot_root is a cheap.

I'm not particularly in favor of merging pivot_root and umount2.  The
number of weird cases in the current api are high.  A merged piece of
code would just make them higher.

I am hoping that one more round of bug fixing will at least get the bugs
for having unprivileged mounts fixed in the current API.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-07 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-07 12:12 Andrey Vagin
2014-10-07 13:30 ` Al Viro
2014-10-07 13:33   ` Al Viro
2014-10-07 19:44     ` Andrew Vagin
2014-10-07 20:30     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-07 20:46       ` Serge Hallyn
2014-10-07 20:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-07 21:32           ` Serge Hallyn
2014-10-07 21:42             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-07 22:19               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 22:42                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-07 22:44                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 23:42                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-07 23:44                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-08  0:20                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-08  0:25                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 21:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 21:26         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2014-10-07 21:38           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 21:50             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-07 21:52               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 21:33         ` Serge Hallyn
2014-10-07 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-08 11:08   ` Andrew Vagin
2014-10-08 15:35     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-08 19:23       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-08 19:31         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-08 21:36           ` Rob Landley
2014-10-08 22:01             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-08 23:38               ` Serge Hallyn
2014-10-08 23:41                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-08 21:23         ` Rob Landley
2014-10-09 10:29         ` Andrew Vagin

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