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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list\:ABI\/API" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LXC development mailing-list 
	<lxc-devel@lists.linuxcontainers.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	cgroups mailinglist <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: CGroup Namespaces (v4)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 16:24:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4dxh9b8.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151116205452.GA30975@mail.hallyn.com> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Mon, 16 Nov 2015 14:54:52 -0600")

"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com> writes:

> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 09:50:55PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> Am 16.11.2015 um 21:46 schrieb Serge E. Hallyn:
>> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 09:41:15PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> >> Serge,
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:51 PM,  <serge@hallyn.com> wrote:
>> >>> To summarize the semantics:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. CLONE_NEWCGROUP re-uses 0x02000000, which was previously CLONE_STOPPED
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. unsharing a cgroup namespace makes all your current cgroups your new
>> >>> cgroup root.
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. /proc/pid/cgroup always shows cgroup paths relative to the reader's
>> >>> cgroup namespce root.  A task outside of  your cgroup looks like
>> >>>
>> >>>         8:memory:/../../..
>> >>>
>> >>> 4. when a task mounts a cgroupfs, the cgroup which shows up as root depends
>> >>> on the mounting task's  cgroup namespace.
>> >>>
>> >>> 5. setns to a cgroup namespace switches your cgroup namespace but not
>> >>> your cgroups.
>> >>>
>> >>> With this, using github.com/hallyn/lxc #2015-11-09/cgns (and
>> >>> github.com/hallyn/lxcfs #2015-11-10/cgns) we can start a container in a full
>> >>> proper cgroup namespace, avoiding either cgmanager or lxcfs cgroup bind mounts.
>> >>>
>> >>> This is completely backward compatible and will be completely invisible
>> >>> to any existing cgroup users (except for those running inside a cgroup
>> >>> namespace and looking at /proc/pid/cgroup of tasks outside their
>> >>> namespace.)
>> >>>    cgroupns-root.
>> >>
>> >> IIRC one downside of this series was that only the new "sane" cgroup
>> >> layout was supported
>> >> and hence it was useless for everything which expected the default layout.
>> >> Hence, still no systemd for us. :)
>> >>
>> >> Is this now different?
>> > 
>> > Yes, all hierachies are no supported.
>> > 
>> 
>> Should read "now"? :-)
>> If so, *awesome*!
>
> D'oh!  Yes, now :-)

I am glad to see multiple hierarchy support, that is something people
can use today.

A couple of quick questions before I delve into a review.

Does this allow mixing of cgroupfs and cgroupfs2?  That is can I: "mount
-t cgroupfs" inside a container and "mount -t cgroupfs2" outside a
container? and still have reasonable things happen?  I suspect the
semantics of cgroups prevent this but I am interested to know what happens.

Similary have you considered what it required to be able to safely set
FS_USERNS_MOUNT?

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-16 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-16 19:51 serge
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 1/8] kernfs: Add API to generate relative kernfs path serge
2015-11-24 16:16   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:17     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 17:43       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-27  5:25     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-30 15:11       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-30 18:37         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-30 22:53           ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-01  2:08             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 2/8] sched: new clone flag CLONE_NEWCGROUP for cgroup namespace serge
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 3/8] cgroup: add function to get task's cgroup serge
2015-11-24 16:27   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:54     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 4/8] cgroup: export cgroup_get() and cgroup_put() serge
2015-11-24 16:30   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 22:35     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 5/8] cgroup: introduce cgroup namespaces serge
2015-11-24 16:49   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 6/8] cgroup: cgroup namespace setns support serge
2015-11-24 16:52   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 7/8] cgroup: mount cgroupns-root when inside non-init cgroupns serge
2015-11-24 17:16   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-25  6:01     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-25 19:10       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-25 19:55         ` Serge Hallyn
2015-11-25 19:57           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-27  5:17     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-30 15:09       ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-01  4:07         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-01 16:46           ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-01 21:58             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 16:53               ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-02 16:56                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 16:58                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-02 17:02                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 17:05                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-03 22:47                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-07 15:39                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-07 15:53                             ` Serge Hallyn
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 8/8] cgroup: Add documentation for cgroup namespaces serge
2015-11-24 17:16   ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-16 20:41 ` CGroup Namespaces (v4) Richard Weinberger
2015-11-16 20:46   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 20:50     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-11-16 20:54       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 22:24         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2015-11-16 22:37           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-17  1:13           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-17  1:40             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-17  3:54               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-18  2:30           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-18  9:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-11-18 15:43               ` Serge E. Hallyn

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