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From: Henning Makholm <henning@makholm.net>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-legal@lists.debian.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Binary-only firmware covered by the GPL?
Date: 30 Mar 2004 17:51:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y8picm79.fsf@kreon.lan.henning.makholm.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40698AE4.7020006@almg.gov.br>

Scripsit Humberto Massa <humberto.massa@almg.gov.br>

> to modify the fw[], at least *legally* is MHO that any
> recipient/redistributor of the file _can_ and _must_ consider the file
> in *that* format as the preferred form for modification (pf4m) *and*,
> considering it the source code, follow the directions of the GPL in
> respect to modification and redistribution.

No, law does not work that way. The phrase "preferred form for
modification" has a clear enough, if somewhat fuzzy, literal meaning,
and one cannot *implicitly* make it mean something that directly
contrast to the literal meaning. If nobody *actually* prefers the
binary blob for modification, then the binary blob is *not* the
preferred form for modification. That's irrespective of whether the
copyright holder behaves inconsistently.

> * the /status quo/ obtained by observation of the previous item
> prevails _until somebody proves_ that the fw[] = {} is *not* the
> source code;

And Debian's approach to software freedom doesn't work that way
either. We treat software as non-free and non-distributable unless and
until we see good and self-consistent evidence that it is actually
free and distributable. The "burden of proof", to the extent that
expression applies, is always on the side that claims that the
software in question is OK for Debian to distribute.

-- 
Henning Makholm                "Nu kommer han. Kan du ikke høre knallerten?"

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-30 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <8RnZwD.A.91B.qHYaAB@murphy>
2004-03-30 14:57 ` Humberto Massa
2004-03-30 16:51   ` Henning Makholm [this message]
2004-03-26 15:04 Matt Reuther
2004-03-26 15:20 ` Matthew Garrett
2004-03-26 22:10   ` David Schwartz
     [not found] <E1B6Izr-0002Ai-00@r063144.stusta.swh.mhn.de>
     [not found] ` <20040325082949.GA3376@gondor.apana.org.au>
2004-03-25 22:08   ` Adrian Bunk
2004-03-25 22:31     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 22:47       ` Adrian Bunk
2004-03-25 22:53       ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-26  0:33         ` John Hasler
2004-03-26  0:17       ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-26  1:30         ` John Hasler
2004-03-26  8:50         ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-26  9:43           ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2004-03-26 10:14             ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-26  0:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-03-26  1:07         ` GOTO Masanori
2004-03-26  1:39           ` John Hasler
2004-03-26  2:06           ` David Schwartz
2004-03-26  2:59             ` Chris Cheney
2004-03-26  3:23               ` John Hasler
2004-03-26  8:53           ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-26  9:12             ` John Bradford
2004-03-26 13:59               ` John Hasler
2004-03-27  9:19                 ` John Bradford
2004-03-26  0:41       ` David Schwartz
2004-03-26 11:20         ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-03-26 11:55           ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-25 22:54     ` Chris Cheney
2004-03-26  0:41       ` David Schwartz
2004-03-26  9:09         ` John Bradford
2004-03-26 13:16         ` Eduard Bloch
2004-03-26 14:19           ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-26 14:29             ` Eduard Bloch
2004-03-26 14:38               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-26 14:55                 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-03-26 15:03                   ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-26 15:10                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-03-26 15:22                     ` Guy
2004-03-26 15:53                     ` Gabor Gombas
2004-03-26 21:57               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-03-30 11:39             ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-30 14:02               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-30 18:11               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2004-04-02 20:53                 ` Pavel Machek

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