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From: Jihan LIN <linjh22s@gmail.com>
To: suleiman@google.com
Cc: andrealmeid@igalia.com, bsegall@google.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, dvhart@infradead.org,
	jstultz@google.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mgorman@suse.de, mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	qyousef@google.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, soolaugust@gmail.com,
	ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org, tglx@kernel.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, vschneid@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 07/12] futex: Make FUTEX_*_PING use Proxy Execution.
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 21:18:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <887eff66-35f3-4703-8ff7-c0c959621b69@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260917043339.2093426-8-suleiman@google.com>

Hi Suleiman,

Thanks for your RFC series.

> diff --git a/kernel/futex/ping.c b/kernel/futex/ping.c
> index ebcd3c4a7793..689f149f7150 100644
> --- a/kernel/futex/ping.c
> +++ b/kernel/futex/ping.c
> @@ -370,6 +370,9 @@ int futex_lock_ping(u32 __user *uaddr, unsigned int flags, ktime_t *time,
>  
>  		queued = false;
>  		while (1) {
> +			set_task_blocked_on(current, &q.ping_state->ping_mutex,
> +					    BO_T_PING_FUTEX);
> +
>  			set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE|TASK_FREEZABLE);
>  			if (!queued) {
> 

A userspace deadlock seems to turn into a kernel lockup.
Consider threads A and B on CPU0, unlocked PING futexes F1 and F2, with
the following ordering:

  A: CAS(F1, gettid(A))
  B: CAS(F2, gettid(B))
  A: futex(&F2, FUTEX_LOCK_PING) <-- T1
  B: futex(&F1, FUTEX_LOCK_PING) <-- T2

Since futex_lock_ping_atomic() only checks self-lock, both tasks end
up blocked on each other after T2. And task_is_blocked() is true for both
tasks, try_to_block_task() would keep them on runqueue with
tsk->is_blocked set.  So if pick_next_task() picks A or B,
find_proxy_task() will stuck walking on A -> B -> A -> ... with rq->lock.

Could we handle cycles in find_proxy_task(), or add a chain walk for
deadlock detection for FUTEX_LOCK_PING like rtmutex?

Best regards,
Jihan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-17 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17  4:33 [RFC PATCH 00/12] FUTEX_PING: A stealable futex using " Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] sched: Abstract task_struct->blocked_on by locking primitive Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] futex: Switch PI futex to use p->pi_futex_lock instead of p->pi_lock Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 15:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] futex: Add "ping" parameter to pi_state management functions and export them Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] futex: Introduce stealable PI futex, FUTEX_*_PING Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] futex: Implement exit_ping_state_list() Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] futex: Address aborting from futex_lock_ping() while owning ping_state Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] futex: Make FUTEX_*_PING use Proxy Execution Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 13:18   ` Jihan LIN [this message]
2026-09-17 14:39     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-17 15:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] futex: Implement PING futex handoff Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] futex: Wake up donor in PING futex unlock Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] futex: Optimistic spinning for PING futexes Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] futex: Allow userspace stealing " Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] tools/testing/futex: Add ping_bench, a tool for benchmarking futexes Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17  8:58 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] FUTEX_PING: A stealable futex using Proxy Execution Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-17 17:53   ` John Stultz
2026-09-17 18:51     ` Steven Rostedt

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