From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] KVM: VMX: Enable Notify VM exit
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 23:04:46 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <88eb9a9a-fbe3-8e2c-02bd-4bdfc855b67f@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eT50LjXYSwfWENjmfg=XxT4Bx3RzOYubKty8kr_APXCEw@mail.gmail.com>
On 2/25/2022 10:54 PM, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 10:19 PM Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Tao Xu <tao3.xu@intel.com>
>>
>> There are cases that malicious virtual machines can cause CPU stuck (due
>> to event windows don't open up), e.g., infinite loop in microcode when
>> nested #AC (CVE-2015-5307). No event window means no event (NMI, SMI and
>> IRQ) can be delivered. It leads the CPU to be unavailable to host or
>> other VMs.
>>
>> VMM can enable notify VM exit that a VM exit generated if no event
>> window occurs in VM non-root mode for a specified amount of time (notify
>> window).
>>
>> Feature enabling:
>> - The new vmcs field SECONDARY_EXEC_NOTIFY_VM_EXITING is introduced to
>> enable this feature. VMM can set NOTIFY_WINDOW vmcs field to adjust
>> the expected notify window.
>> - Expose a module param to configure notify window by admin, which is in
>> unit of crystal clock.
>> - if notify_window < 0, feature disabled;
>> - if notify_window >= 0, feature enabled;
>> - There's a possibility, however small, that a notify VM exit happens
>> with VM_CONTEXT_INVALID set in exit qualification. In this case, the
>> vcpu can no longer run. To avoid killing a well-behaved guest, set
>> notify window as -1 to disable this feature by default.
>> - It's safe to even set notify window to zero since an internal
>> hardware threshold is added to vmcs.notifiy_window.
>
> What causes a VM_CONTEXT_INVALID VM-exit? How small is this possibility?
For now, no case will set VM_CONTEXT_INVALID bit.
In the future, it must be some fatal case that vmcs is corrupted.
>> Nested handling
>> - Nested notify VM exits are not supported yet. Keep the same notify
>> window control in vmcs02 as vmcs01, so that L1 can't escape the
>> restriction of notify VM exits through launching L2 VM.
>> - When L2 VM is context invalid, synthesize a nested
>> EXIT_REASON_TRIPLE_FAULT to L1 so that L1 won't be killed due to L2's
>> VM_CONTEXT_INVALID happens.
>
> I don't like the idea of making things up without notifying userspace
> that this is fictional. How is my customer running nested VMs supposed
> to know that L2 didn't actually shutdown, but L0 killed it because the
> notify window was exceeded? If this information isn't reported to
> userspace, I have no way of getting the information to the customer.
Then, maybe a dedicated software define VM exit for it instead of
reusing triple fault?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-25 15:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-23 6:24 Chenyi Qiang
2022-02-25 11:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-25 12:46 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-25 14:54 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-25 15:04 ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2022-02-25 15:12 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-25 15:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-25 18:06 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-25 18:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-25 19:15 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-26 4:07 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-26 4:25 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-26 4:53 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-26 6:24 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-26 14:24 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-28 7:10 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-28 14:30 ` Jim Mattson
2022-03-01 1:40 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-01 4:32 ` Jim Mattson
2022-03-01 5:30 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-01 21:57 ` Jim Mattson
2022-03-02 2:15 ` Chenyi Qiang
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