From: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
To: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] KVM: VMX: Enable Notify VM exit
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 20:53:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALMp9eS6cBDuax8O=woSdkNH2e2Y2EodE-7EfUTFfzBvCWCmcg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eT1NRudtVqPuHU8Y8LpFYWZsAB_MnE2BAbg5NY0jR823w@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:25 PM Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:07 PM Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2/25/2022 11:13 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > On 2/25/22 16:12, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I don't like the idea of making things up without notifying userspace
> > >>>> that this is fictional. How is my customer running nested VMs supposed
> > >>>> to know that L2 didn't actually shutdown, but L0 killed it because the
> > >>>> notify window was exceeded? If this information isn't reported to
> > >>>> userspace, I have no way of getting the information to the customer.
> > >>>
> > >>> Then, maybe a dedicated software define VM exit for it instead of
> > >>> reusing triple fault?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Second thought, we can even just return Notify VM exit to L1 to tell
> > >> L2 causes Notify VM exit, even thought Notify VM exit is not exposed
> > >> to L1.
> > >
> > > That might cause NULL pointer dereferences or other nasty occurrences.
> >
> > IMO, a well written VMM (in L1) should handle it correctly.
> >
> > L0 KVM reports no Notify VM Exit support to L1, so L1 runs without
> > setting Notify VM exit. If a L2 causes notify_vm_exit with
> > invalid_vm_context, L0 just reflects it to L1. In L1's view, there is no
> > support of Notify VM Exit from VMX MSR capability. Following L1 handler
> > is possible:
> >
> > a) if (notify_vm_exit available & notify_vm_exit enabled) {
> > handle in b)
> > } else {
> > report unexpected vm exit reason to userspace;
> > }
> >
> > b) similar handler like we implement in KVM:
> > if (!vm_context_invalid)
> > re-enter guest;
> > else
> > report to userspace;
> >
> > c) no Notify VM Exit related code (e.g. old KVM), it's treated as
> > unsupported exit reason
> >
> > As long as it belongs to any case above, I think L1 can handle it
> > correctly. Any nasty occurrence should be caused by incorrect handler in
> > L1 VMM, in my opinion.
>
> Please test some common hypervisors (e.g. ESXi and Hyper-V).
I took a look at KVM in Linux v4.9 (one of our more popular guests),
and it will not handle this case well:
if (exit_reason < kvm_vmx_max_exit_handlers
&& kvm_vmx_exit_handlers[exit_reason])
return kvm_vmx_exit_handlers[exit_reason](vcpu);
else {
WARN_ONCE(1, "vmx: unexpected exit reason 0x%x\n", exit_reason);
kvm_queue_exception(vcpu, UD_VECTOR);
return 1;
}
At least there's an L1 kernel log message for the first unexpected
NOTIFY VM-exit, but after that, there is silence. Just a completely
inexplicable #UD in L2, assuming that L2 is resumable at this point.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-26 4:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-23 6:24 Chenyi Qiang
2022-02-25 11:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-25 12:46 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-25 14:54 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-25 15:04 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-25 15:12 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-25 15:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-25 18:06 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-25 18:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-25 19:15 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-26 4:07 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-26 4:25 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-26 4:53 ` Jim Mattson [this message]
2022-02-26 6:24 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-26 14:24 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-28 7:10 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-28 14:30 ` Jim Mattson
2022-03-01 1:40 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-01 4:32 ` Jim Mattson
2022-03-01 5:30 ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-01 21:57 ` Jim Mattson
2022-03-02 2:15 ` Chenyi Qiang
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