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From: changhuaixin <changhuaixin@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: changhuaixin <changhuaixin@linux.alibaba.com>,
	luca.abeni@santannapisa.it, anderson@cs.unc.edu,
	baruah@wustl.edu, Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	dtcccc@linux.alibaba.com, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	Odin Ugedal <odin@uged.al>, Odin Ugedal <odin@ugedal.com>,
	pauld@redhead.com, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Shanpei Chen <shanpeic@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	tommaso.cucinotta@santannapisa.it,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/3] sched/fair: Add cfs bandwidth burst statistics
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:31:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8D470B39-00F8-4C87-92B8-BA645639AB24@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YNnkDnJtliEInwTY@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>



> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:00 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 05:27:59PM +0800, Huaixin Chang wrote:
>> The following statistics in cpu.stat file is added to show how much workload
>> is making use of cfs_b burst:
>> 
>> nr_bursts:  number of periods bandwidth burst occurs
>> burst_usec: cumulative wall-time that any cpus has
>> 	    used above quota in respective periods
>> 
>> The larger nr_bursts is, the more bursty periods there are. And the larger
>> burst_usec is, the more burst time is used by bursty workload.
> 
> That's what it does, but fails to explain why. How is this number
> useful.
> 

How about this?

The cfs_b burst feature avoids throttling by allowing bandwidth bursts. When using cfs_b
burst, users configure burst and see if it helps from workload latency and cfs_b interval
statistics like nr_throttled. Also two new statistics are introduced to show the internal of burst featrue
and explain why burst helps or not:

	nr_bursts:    number of periods bandwidth burst occurs
	burst_usec: cumulative wall-time that any cpus has
			    used above quota in respective periods


>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> index 53d7cc4d009b..62b73722e510 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> @@ -4634,11 +4634,22 @@ static inline u64 sched_cfs_bandwidth_slice(void)
>>  */
>> void __refill_cfs_bandwidth_runtime(struct cfs_bandwidth *cfs_b)
>> {
>> +	u64 runtime;
>> +
>> 	if (unlikely(cfs_b->quota == RUNTIME_INF))
>> 		return;
>> 
>> +	if (cfs_b->runtime_at_period_start > cfs_b->runtime) {
>> +		runtime = cfs_b->runtime_at_period_start - cfs_b->runtime;
> 
> That comparison is the same as the subtraction; might as well write
> this:
> 
>> +		if (runtime > cfs_b->quota) {
>> +			cfs_b->burst_time += runtime - cfs_b->quota;
> 
> Same here.
> 
>> +			cfs_b->nr_burst++;
>> +		}
>> +	}
> 
> 
> Perhaps we can write that like:
> 
> 	s64 runtime = cfs_b->runtime_snapshot - cfs_b->runtime;
> 	if (runtime > 0) {
> 		s64 burstime = runtime - cfs_q->quota;
> 		if (burstime > 0) {
> 			cfs_b->bust_time += bursttime;
> 			cfs_b->nr_bursts++;
> 		}
> 	}
> 
> I was hoping we could get away with something simpler, like maybe:
> 

Got it.

> 	u64 old_runtim = cfs_b->runtime;
> 
> 	cfs_b->runtime += cfs_b->quota
> 	cfs_b->runtime = min(cfs_b->runtime, cfs_b->quota + cfs_b->burst);
> 
> 	if (cfs_b->runtime - old_runtime > cfs_b->quota)
> 		cfs_b->nr_bursts++;
> 
> Would that be good enough?
> 
> 
>> +
>> 	cfs_b->runtime += cfs_b->quota;
>> 	cfs_b->runtime = min(cfs_b->runtime, cfs_b->quota + cfs_b->burst);
>> +	cfs_b->runtime_at_period_start = cfs_b->runtime;
>> }
>> 
>> static inline struct cfs_bandwidth *tg_cfs_bandwidth(struct task_group *tg)
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>> index d317ca74a48c..b770b553dfbb 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>> @@ -367,6 +367,7 @@ struct cfs_bandwidth {
>> 	u64			quota;
>> 	u64			runtime;
>> 	u64			burst;
>> +	u64			runtime_at_period_start;
>> 	s64			hierarchical_quota;
> 
> As per the above, I don't really like that name, runtime_snapshot or
> perhaps runtime_snap is shorter and not less clear. But not having it at
> all would be even better.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-02 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-21  9:27 [PATCH v6 0/3] sched/fair: Burstable CFS bandwidth controller Huaixin Chang
2021-06-21  9:27 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] sched/fair: Introduce the burstable CFS controller Huaixin Chang
2021-06-22 13:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-22 18:57     ` Benjamin Segall
2021-06-24  8:48     ` changhuaixin
2021-06-24  9:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-22 15:27   ` Odin Ugedal
2021-06-23  8:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-24  8:45     ` changhuaixin
2021-06-24  7:39   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Huaixin Chang
2021-06-21  9:27 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] sched/fair: Add cfs bandwidth burst statistics Huaixin Chang
2021-06-28 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-28 15:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-02 11:31     ` changhuaixin [this message]
2021-06-21  9:28 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] sched/fair: Add document for burstable CFS bandwidth Huaixin Chang
2021-06-22 15:26   ` Odin Ugedal
2021-06-22 14:25 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] sched/fair: Burstable CFS bandwidth controller Tejun Heo

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