From: Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
Jun Nie <jun.nie@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/6] dt-bindings: display: Add Synaptics panel support
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2026 17:51:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cf6ec52-fb36-44e7-831c-2bb24214f591@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3xs3kzc2wg5lkouaemdicrbtsoquff6bvmnlmuxwh4kspfs2d@b77l43axr6a4>
On 10/1/26 02:43, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 09:18:55PM +0200, Neil Armstrong wrote:
>> On 9/30/26 21:04, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 06:43:47PM +0200, Neil Armstrong wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/26 09:44, Linus Walleij wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2026 at 3:35 PM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This entire binding seems like stitching two devices together, which
>>>>>> might be fine (I don't even remember this stuff... two months old) or
>>>>>> might be artificial grouping of separate devices.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that's a good point and fair pushback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil and Jun talk about it yesterday at XDC (1:15 into the stream):
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tNGW8PoSzw
>>>>>
>>>>> The current binding does not reflect the physical topology of the
>>>>> actual device, and the bindings need improvements. I have a feeling
>>>>> there is one display controller with two physical panels.
>>>>
>>>> No there's really 2 controller and 2 separate panels, but they are not
>>>> classic panel, they are a pair of panels+lens which are in front of
>>>> the eyes which forms a single "image" for the brain, so they are
>>>> technically a single display and requires to be hard synchronized.
>>>
>>> Yes. However this approach makes it impossible to share the code between
>>> the double-panel drivers and single-panel drivers. I think, that the
>>> panel driver should still reference a single glass+DDIC, while letting
>>> the DSI host driver to handle the bifurcation.
>>
>> Yes, and no, it must really be considered as a "single panel driven by 2 identical controllers",
>> and even this is really purely software implementation issue.
>
> [...]
>
>
>>>> Describing both panels into separate nodes would only be possible
>>>> if we described a "VR display complex" nodes linked to both panels
>>>> but this would probably be solved by actually describing the "display"
>>>> linked to a DDIC controller and is out of subject for this serie,
>>>> and can be added later when we properly define things.
>>>
>>> I like the VR complex idea. In the end, you have two modes which you
>>> most likely might want to support:
>>> - L+R, having double-width CRTC scanning over a double-width framebuffer
>>> - Mx2, having a single-width CRTC and a single-width framebuffer
>>> displaying the same picture to both eyes. I can imaging that knowing
>>> about L+R might be an explicit opt-in feature of the DRM interface.
>>>
>>
>> This makes no sense to support both modes, and this will never be used,
>> and anyway this is purely software implementation.
>>
>> We're defining bindings here, describing the real reality, not hypothetical
>> situation that will never happen.
>
> Let's ignore software issues. On the hardware side, you have two
> distinct DSI panels, each having its own set of controls, own DSI link
> and own backlight control.
>
OK so let's see the problem in another angle, if we had 2 DS links 2 physical
controllers, 2 physically distinct panels but forms an unique display.
Describing it in separate distincts nodes is wrong since it doesn't reflect
that it's an unified display, so either we define :
- a "combined-display" bridge defined as:
- a separate top node in / like connectors with a graph from the DSI links to each panel
- a DSI subnode with 2 panels as subnode, port graph from both dsi to both sub-panels
- a "R63455" panel bindings with 2 subpanels as Linus shared in https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAD++jLkyEPY5cFg_pHb71yG52iLwS9tQDpcHu=TTBknQMeFctw@mail.gmail.com/
I think it would be interesting to have the "combined-display", with a connector-like node,
which will do all the split-dsi dual-panel logic for us and leave use implementing simple panel
drivers.
The outline would be:
=====><=======================================
/ {
xr-display {
compatible = "combined-display";
ports {
port@0 {
combined_dsi0: endpoint {
remote-endpoint = <&dsi0_out>;
};
};
port@1 {
combined_dsi1: endpoint {
remote-endpoint = <&dsi1_out>;
};
};
port@2 {
combined_panel0: endpoint {
remote-endpoint = <&r63455_right_in>;
};
};
port@3 {
combined_panel1: endpoint {
remote-endpoint = <&r63455_left_in>;
};
};
};
};
};
&mdss_dsi0 {
vdda-supply = <&vreg_l3i_1p2>;
status = "okay";
qcom,dual-dsi-mode;
qcom,master-dsi;
panel_right: panel@0 {
compatible = "sharp,ls026b3sa06", "synaptic
reset-gpios = <&pm8550_gpios 3 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>>;
pos-supply = <&vpos_right>;
neg-supply = <&vneg_right>;
backlight-supply = <&backlight_right>;
vdda-supply = <&vreg_l12b_1p8>;
port {
r63455_right_in: endpoint {
remote-endpoint = <&combined_panel0>;
};
};
};
};
&mdss_dsi0_out {
remote-endpoint = <&combined_dsi0>;
data-lanes = <0 1 2 3>;
};
&mdss_dsi1 {
vdda-supply = <&vreg_l3i_1p2>;
status = "okay";
qcom,dual-dsi-mode;
panel_left: panel@0 {
compatible = "sharp,ls026b3sa06", "synaptic
reset-gpios = <&pm8550_gpios 19 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>>;
pos-supply = <&vpos_left>;
neg-supply = <&vneg_left>;
backlight-supply = <&backlight_left>;
vdda-supply = <&vreg_l12b_1p8>;
port {
r63455_left_in: endpoint {
remote-endpoint = <&combined_panel1>;
};
};
};
};
&mdss_dsi1_out {
remote-endpoint = <&combined_dsi1>;
data-lanes = <0 1 2 3>;
};
=====><=======================================
So this would solve all the similar use-cases.
We can even add the "xr-display" compatible with "combined-fallback" plus some
properties to define how the panels are physically placed.
Neil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-04 15:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-27 8:08 [PATCH v5 0/6] Add support to 2 panels in bonded-DSI mode Jun Nie
2026-07-27 8:08 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] dt-bindings: display: panel: Modify reset gpio number constrain Jun Nie
2026-07-27 20:23 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-29 8:01 ` Jun Nie
2026-07-29 8:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-29 8:17 ` Jun Nie
2026-07-27 20:24 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-27 8:08 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] drm/msm/dsi: support DSC configurations with slice_per_pkt > 1 Jun Nie
2026-09-29 16:03 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-09-30 13:42 ` Jun Nie
2026-09-30 19:39 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-27 8:08 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] drm/mipi-dsi: Add flag to support dual-panel configurations Jun Nie
2026-09-29 16:05 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-09-30 13:52 ` Jun Nie
2026-09-30 19:43 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-10-04 13:58 ` Jun Nie
2026-10-05 2:03 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-27 8:08 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] drm/msm/dsi: Support dual panel use case with single CRTC Jun Nie
2026-09-29 16:20 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-09-30 16:10 ` Jun Nie
2026-10-01 0:23 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-27 8:08 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] dt-bindings: display: Add Synaptics R63455 panel support Jun Nie
2026-07-27 9:47 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-07-27 20:42 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-27 20:29 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-09-29 12:54 ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-29 13:35 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-09-30 7:44 ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-30 16:26 ` Jun Nie
2026-09-30 16:43 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-30 19:04 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-09-30 19:18 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-01 0:43 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-10-04 15:51 ` Neil Armstrong [this message]
2026-10-04 20:22 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] dt-bindings: display: Add Synaptics " Linus Walleij
2026-10-05 8:56 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-05 2:22 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-10-05 8:54 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-05 11:15 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-09-30 19:58 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] dt-bindings: display: Add Synaptics R63455 " Linus Walleij
2026-09-29 16:27 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-27 8:08 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] drm/panel: Add driver for Synaptics R63455 DSI panel Jun Nie
2026-09-29 13:02 ` Linus Walleij
2026-09-30 16:31 ` Jun Nie
2026-09-30 19:48 ` Linus Walleij
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