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From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
	Thinh Nguyen <Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com>
Cc: "linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	dt <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Wesley Cheng <wesley.cheng@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: grumpy DWC3+UCSI, usb-role-switch semantics
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2026 13:40:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8fabc049-7fdf-498a-a3ef-6f2570d510c8@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)

Hi,

The description for the usb-role-switch property (usb-drd.yaml) states:

  Indicates that the device is capable of assigning the USB data role
  (USB host or USB device) for a given USB connector, such as Type-C,
  Type-B(micro). See connector/usb-connector.yaml.

That to me sounds like a description of the capability of the on-SoC
controller (i.e. should/could be set regardless of device specifics),
however in this configuration:

&usb {
	dr_mode = "host";
	usb-role-switch;
};

the role switch device is never registered on devices with a DWC3
controller, since that's handled in dwc3_drd_init(), which is only called
if dr_mode = "otg" (or absent since otg is the default).


This notably causes:

ucsi_init()
 -> ucsi_register_port()
    -> fwnode_usb_role_switch_get()

to loop in -EPROBE_DEFER, since the 'usb-role-switch' property is present
on the connected DWC3 core, but the rolesw device is never registered.

Now, it seems like different drivers do this differently, e.g. DWC2 seems
to always register a rolesw.


How should we tackle this?

FWIW I'd prefer (for maintainability reasons) to not have to set/remove
'usb-role-switch' separately for each board, depending on whether whatever is
at the other end of the USB cables is rolesw-capable (since again, the controller
itself is), but if we go that route, I'd request that we explicitly forbid the
combination of usb-role-switch && dr_mode=host/peripheral in bindings, so that
the computer yells at me if I overlook that

Konrad

P.S. this is the reason behind the issue we encountered at:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-msm/Z1gbyXk-SktGjL6-@hovoldconsulting.com/

             reply	other threads:[~2026-03-11 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-11 12:40 Konrad Dybcio [this message]
2026-03-11 19:21 ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-03-13 13:56   ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-03-13 22:14     ` Thinh Nguyen

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