From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/gup: remove (VM_)BUG_ONs
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 16:44:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8fc9b4e3-55d2-48e2-a9ad-4f21dc283f35@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5575b0cf-de59-4b4e-b339-c310f079bda7@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 04:58:25PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 04.06.25 16:48, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > +Linus in case he has an opinion about BUG_ON() in general...
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 04:05:44PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > Especially once we hit one of the assertions in
> > > sanity_check_pinned_pages(), observing follow-up assertions failing
> > > in other code can give good clues about what went wrong, so use
> > > VM_WARN_ON_ONCE instead.
> >
> > I guess the situation where you'd actually want a BUG_ON() is one where
> > carrying on might cause further corruption so you just want things to stop.
>
> Yes. Like, serious data corruption would be avoidable.
Yeah, I just wonder how often this is ever reliably for sure the case...
>
> >
> > But usually we're already pretty screwed if the thing happened right? So
> > it's rare if ever that this would be legit?
> >
> > Linus's point of view is that we shouldn't use them _at all_ right? So
> > maybe even this situation isn't one where we'd want to use one?
>
> I think the grey zone is actual data corruption. But one has to have a
> pretty good reason to use a BUG_ON and not a WARN_ON_ONCE() + recovery.
Right.
>
> >
> > >
> > > While at it, let's just convert all VM_BUG_ON to VM_WARN_ON_ONCE as
> > > well. Add one comment for the pfn_valid() check.
> >
> > Yeah VM_BUG_ON() is just _weird_. Maybe we should get rid of all of them
> > full stop?
>
> That's my thinking a well.
:)
>
> >
> > >
> > > We have to introduce VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_VMA() to make that fly.
> >
> > I checked the implementation vs. the other VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_*()'s and it
> > looks good.
> >
> > I wonder if we can find a way to not duplicate this code... but one for a
> > follow up I think :>)
> >
> > >
> > > Drop the BUG_ON after mmap_read_lock_killable(), if that ever returns
> > > something > 0 we're in bigger trouble. Convert the other BUG_ON's into
> > > VM_WARN_ON_ONCE as well, they are in a similar domain "should never
> > > happen", but more reasonable to check for during early testing.
> > >
> > > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > > Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> > > Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
> > > Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> > > Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> > > Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > > Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
> > > Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
> > > Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> >
> > LGTM so,
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> >
> >
>
> Thanks!
>
> > One nit below.
> >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Wanted to do this for a long time, but my todo list keeps growing ...
> >
> > Sounds familiar :) Merge window a chance to do some of these things...
> >
> > >
> > > Based on mm/mm-unstable
> > >
> > > ---
> > > include/linux/mmdebug.h | 12 ++++++++++++
> > > mm/gup.c | 41 +++++++++++++++++++----------------------
> > > 2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/mmdebug.h b/include/linux/mmdebug.h
> > > index a0a3894900ed4..14a45979cccc9 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/mmdebug.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/mmdebug.h
> > > @@ -89,6 +89,17 @@ void vma_iter_dump_tree(const struct vma_iterator *vmi);
> > > } \
> > > unlikely(__ret_warn_once); \
> > > })
> > > +#define VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_VMA(cond, vma) ({ \
> > > + static bool __section(".data..once") __warned; \
> > > + int __ret_warn_once = !!(cond); \
> > > + \
> > > + if (unlikely(__ret_warn_once && !__warned)) { \
> > > + dump_vma(vma); \
> > > + __warned = true; \
> > > + WARN_ON(1); \
> > > + } \
> > > + unlikely(__ret_warn_once); \
> > > +})
> >
> > An aside, I wonder if we could somehow make this generic for various
> > WARN_ON_ONCE()'s?
>
> Yeah, probably. Maybe it will get .... ugly :)
>
> >
> > > #define VM_WARN_ON_VMG(cond, vmg) ({ \
> > > int __ret_warn = !!(cond); \
> > > \
> > > @@ -115,6 +126,7 @@ void vma_iter_dump_tree(const struct vma_iterator *vmi);
> > > #define VM_WARN_ON_FOLIO(cond, folio) BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
> > > #define VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO(cond, folio) BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
> > > #define VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_MM(cond, mm) BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
> > > +#define VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_VMA(cond, vma) BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
> > > #define VM_WARN_ON_VMG(cond, vmg) BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
> > > #define VM_WARN_ONCE(cond, format...) BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
> > > #define VM_WARN(cond, format...) BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
> > > diff --git a/mm/gup.c b/mm/gup.c
> > > index e065a49842a87..3c3931fcdd820 100644
> > > --- a/mm/gup.c
> > > +++ b/mm/gup.c
> > > @@ -64,11 +64,11 @@ static inline void sanity_check_pinned_pages(struct page **pages,
> > > !folio_test_anon(folio))
> > > continue;
> > > if (!folio_test_large(folio) || folio_test_hugetlb(folio))
> > > - VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(!PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page), page);
> > > + VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_PAGE(!PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page), page);
> > > else
> > > /* Either a PTE-mapped or a PMD-mapped THP. */
> > > - VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(!PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page) &&
> > > - !PageAnonExclusive(page), page);
> > > + VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_PAGE(!PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page) &&
> > > + !PageAnonExclusive(page), page);
> >
> > Nit but wouldn't VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO() work better here?
>
> No, we want the actual problematic page here, as that can give us clues what
> is going wrong.
Ah yeah... didn't notice we're checking both folio and
page... PageAnonExclusive() seems to be a weird beast:
/*
* HugeTLB stores this information on the head page; THP keeps it per
* page
*/
But anyway I'm digressing :)
>
> For the small-folio case above we could use it, though.
Ack, no big deal though.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
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2025-06-04 14:05 David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 14:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-04 14:26 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-06-04 14:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 14:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 15:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-06-04 15:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-04 16:05 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 15:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04 16:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 17:25 ` SeongJae Park
2025-06-04 19:12 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-04 19:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05 1:07 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-05 5:37 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-05 6:08 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05 8:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-05 12:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05 7:10 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 8:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 8:31 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 9:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 10:13 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 10:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 10:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 11:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 11:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 11:56 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 12:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 12:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 17:57 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 18:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 18:21 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 18:31 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 18:39 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 18:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-06 18:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 19:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-07 13:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-07 13:53 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-07 18:00 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-09 9:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-24 10:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-24 10:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 17:27 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-11 9:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11 12:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-11 12:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 10:28 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 10:27 ` David Hildenbrand
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