From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: lirongqing <lirongqing@baidu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: corbet@lwn.net, mhiramat@kernel.org, paulmck@kernel.org,
pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com, mingo@kernel.org,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
kees@kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de, feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com,
pauld@redhat.com, joel.granados@kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] hung_task: Support to panic when the maximum number of hung task warnings is reached
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 11:59:30 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9067a88d-f5df-4d6e-b3b3-2e266ebcf3d0@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250922204554.55dd890090b0f56ad10a61f5@linux-foundation.org>
On 2025/9/23 11:45, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 11:37:40 +0800 lirongqing <lirongqing@baidu.com> wrote:
>
>> Currently the hung task detector can either panic immediately or continue
>> operation when hung tasks are detected. However, there are scenarios
>> where we want a more balanced approach:
>>
>> - We don't want the system to panic immediately when a few hung tasks
>> are detected, as the system may be able to recover
>> - And we also don't want the system to stall indefinitely with multiple
>> hung tasks
>>
>> This commit introduces a new mode (value 2) for the hung task panic behavior.
>> When set to 2, the system will panic only after the maximum number of hung
>> task warnings (hung_task_warnings) has been reached.
>>
>> This provides a middle ground between immediate panic and potentially
>> infinite stall, allowing for automated vmcore generation after a reasonable
>
> I assume the same argument applies to the NMI watchdog, to the
> softlockup detector and to the RCU stall detector?
>
> A general framework to handle all of these might be better. But why do
> it in kernel at all? What about a userspace detector which parses
> kernel logs (or new procfs counters) and makes such decisions?
+1. I agree that a userspace detector seems more appropriate for this.
We already have the hung_task_detect_count counter, so a userspace
detector could easily use that to implement custom policies ;)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-23 3:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-23 3:37 lirongqing
2025-09-23 3:45 ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-23 3:59 ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-09-23 5:22 ` [外部邮件] " Li,Rongqing
2025-09-23 5:55 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-23 6:19 ` Li,Rongqing
2025-09-23 4:00 ` [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-09-23 6:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-23 6:16 ` [外部邮件] " Li,Rongqing
2025-09-23 7:01 ` Li,Rongqing
2025-09-23 4:35 ` Randy Dunlap
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