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From: "Li,Rongqing" <lirongqing@baidu.com>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
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Subject: RE: [外部邮件] Re: [PATCH][RFC] hung_task: Support to panic when the maximum number of hung task warnings is reached
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 05:22:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bbdc2b5c2b374ed1801113148a72d83c@baidu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9067a88d-f5df-4d6e-b3b3-2e266ebcf3d0@linux.dev>

> > I assume the same argument applies to the NMI watchdog, to the
> > softlockup detector and to the RCU stall detector?
> >
> > A general framework to handle all of these might be better.  But why
> > do it in kernel at all?  What about a userspace detector which parses
> > kernel logs (or new procfs counters) and makes such decisions?
> 
> +1. I agree that a userspace detector seems more appropriate for this.
> 

I think the user-space maybe flexibility, but incurs relatively higher overhead and is less reliable. When the system hangs, this task may have already hung as well.


> We already have the hung_task_detect_count counter, so a userspace detector
> could easily use that to implement custom policies ;)

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-23  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-23  3:37 lirongqing
2025-09-23  3:45 ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-23  3:59   ` Lance Yang
2025-09-23  5:22     ` Li,Rongqing [this message]
2025-09-23  5:55       ` [外部邮件] " Lance Yang
2025-09-23  6:19         ` Li,Rongqing
2025-09-23  4:00   ` [????] " Li,Rongqing
2025-09-23  6:03     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-23  6:16       ` [外部邮件] " Li,Rongqing
2025-09-23  7:01       ` Li,Rongqing
2025-09-23  4:35 ` Randy Dunlap

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