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From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>, Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	anshuman.khandual@arm.com, quic_zhenhuah@quicinc.com,
	kevin.brodsky@arm.com, yangyicong@hisilicon.com,
	joey.gouly@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, david@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] arm64: Enable vmalloc-huge with ptdump
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 08:41:36 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <910e8622-2755-4aca-b17e-0ec8a18a7f1a@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aFFWw4O2PjOScWld@pc636>


On 17/06/25 5:21 pm, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 10:20:29PM +0100, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 16/06/2025 19:07, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>> On 16/06/2025 11:33, Dev Jain wrote:
>>>> arm64 disables vmalloc-huge when kernel page table dumping is enabled,
>>>> because an intermediate table may be removed, potentially causing the
>>>> ptdump code to dereference an invalid address. We want to be able to
>>>> analyze block vs page mappings for kernel mappings with ptdump, so to
>>>> enable vmalloc-huge with ptdump, synchronize between page table removal in
>>>> pmd_free_pte_page()/pud_free_pmd_page() and ptdump pagetable walking. We
>>>> use mmap_read_lock and not write lock because we don't need to synchronize
>>>> between two different vm_structs; two vmalloc objects running this same
>>>> code path will point to different page tables, hence there is no race.
>>>>
>>>> For pud_free_pmd_page(), we isolate the PMD table to avoid taking the lock
>>>> 512 times again via pmd_free_pte_page().
>>>>
>>>> We implement the locking mechanism using static keys, since the chance
>>>> of a race is very small. Observe that the synchronization is needed
>>>> to avoid the following race:
>>>>
>>>> CPU1							CPU2
>>>> 						take reference of PMD table
>>>> pud_clear()
>>>> pte_free_kernel()
>>>> 						walk freed PMD table
>>>>
>>>> and similar race between pmd_free_pte_page and ptdump_walk_pgd.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, there are two cases: if ptdump sees the cleared PUD, then
>>>> we are safe. If not, then the patched-in read and write locks help us
>>>> avoid the race.
>>>>
>>>> To implement the mechanism, we need the static key access from mmu.c and
>>>> ptdump.c. Note that in case !CONFIG_PTDUMP_DEBUGFS, ptdump.o won't be a
>>>> target in the Makefile, therefore we cannot initialize the key there, as
>>>> is being done, for example, in the static key implementation of
>>>> hugetlb-vmemmap. Therefore, include asm/cpufeature.h, which includes
>>>> the jump_label mechanism. Declare the key there and define the key to false
>>>> in mmu.c.
>>>>
>>>> No issues were observed with mm-selftests. No issues were observed while
>>>> parallelly running test_vmalloc.sh and dumping the kernel pagetable through
>>>> sysfs in a loop.
>>>>
>>>> v2->v3:
>>>>   - Use static key mechanism
>>>>
>>>> v1->v2:
>>>>   - Take lock only when CONFIG_PTDUMP_DEBUGFS is on
>>>>   - In case of pud_free_pmd_page(), isolate the PMD table to avoid taking
>>>>     the lock 512 times again via pmd_free_pte_page()
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>   arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h |  1 +
>>>>   arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c                 | 51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>>>   arch/arm64/mm/ptdump.c              |  5 +++
>>>>   3 files changed, 53 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h
>>>> index c4326f1cb917..3e386563b587 100644
>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h
>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h
>>>> @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
>>>>   #include <linux/kernel.h>
>>>>   #include <linux/cpumask.h>
>>>>   
>>>> +DECLARE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(ptdump_lock_key);
>>>>   /*
>>>>    * CPU feature register tracking
>>>>    *
>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
>>>> index 8fcf59ba39db..e242ba428820 100644
>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
>>>> @@ -41,11 +41,14 @@
>>>>   #include <asm/tlbflush.h>
>>>>   #include <asm/pgalloc.h>
>>>>   #include <asm/kfence.h>
>>>> +#include <asm/cpufeature.h>
>>>>   
>>>>   #define NO_BLOCK_MAPPINGS	BIT(0)
>>>>   #define NO_CONT_MAPPINGS	BIT(1)
>>>>   #define NO_EXEC_MAPPINGS	BIT(2)	/* assumes FEAT_HPDS is not used */
>>>>   
>>>> +DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(ptdump_lock_key);
>>>> +
>>>>   enum pgtable_type {
>>>>   	TABLE_PTE,
>>>>   	TABLE_PMD,
>>>> @@ -1267,8 +1270,9 @@ int pmd_clear_huge(pmd_t *pmdp)
>>>>   	return 1;
>>>>   }
>>>>   
>>>> -int pmd_free_pte_page(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr)
>>>> +static int __pmd_free_pte_page(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr, bool lock)
>>>>   {
>>>> +	bool lock_taken = false;
>>>>   	pte_t *table;
>>>>   	pmd_t pmd;
>>>>   
>>>> @@ -1279,15 +1283,29 @@ int pmd_free_pte_page(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr)
>>>>   		return 1;
>>>>   	}
>>>>   
>>>> +	/* See comment in pud_free_pmd_page for static key logic */
>>>>   	table = pte_offset_kernel(pmdp, addr);
>>>>   	pmd_clear(pmdp);
>>>>   	__flush_tlb_kernel_pgtable(addr);
>>>> +	if (static_branch_unlikely(&ptdump_lock_key) && lock) {
>>>> +		mmap_read_lock(&init_mm);
>>>> +		lock_taken = true;
>>>> +	}
>>>> +	if (unlikely(lock_taken))
>>>> +		mmap_read_unlock(&init_mm);
>>>> +
>>>>   	pte_free_kernel(NULL, table);
>>>>   	return 1;
>>>>   }
>>>>   
>>>> +int pmd_free_pte_page(pmd_t *pmdp, unsigned long addr)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	return __pmd_free_pte_page(pmdp, addr, true);
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>>   int pud_free_pmd_page(pud_t *pudp, unsigned long addr)
>>>>   {
>>>> +	bool lock_taken = false;
>>>>   	pmd_t *table;
>>>>   	pmd_t *pmdp;
>>>>   	pud_t pud;
>>>> @@ -1301,15 +1319,40 @@ int pud_free_pmd_page(pud_t *pudp, unsigned long addr)
>>>>   	}
>>>>   
>>>>   	table = pmd_offset(pudp, addr);
>>>> +	/*
>>>> +	 * Isolate the PMD table; in case of race with ptdump, this helps
>>>> +	 * us to avoid taking the lock in __pmd_free_pte_page().
>>>> +	 *
>>>> +	 * Static key logic:
>>>> +	 *
>>>> +	 * Case 1: If ptdump does static_branch_enable(), and after that we
>>>> +	 * execute the if block, then this patches in the read lock, ptdump has
>>>> +	 * the write lock patched in, therefore ptdump will never read from
>>>> +	 * a potentially freed PMD table.
>>>> +	 *
>>>> +	 * Case 2: If the if block starts executing before ptdump's
>>>> +	 * static_branch_enable(), then no locking synchronization
>>>> +	 * will be done. However, pud_clear() + the dsb() in
>>>> +	 * __flush_tlb_kernel_pgtable will ensure that ptdump observes an
>>>> +	 * empty PUD. Thus, it will never walk over a potentially freed
>>>> +	 * PMD table.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	pud_clear(pudp);
>>> How can this possibly be correct; you're clearing the pud without any
>>> synchronisation. So you could have this situation:
>>>
>>> CPU1 (vmalloc)			CPU2 (ptdump)
>>>
>>> 				static_branch_enable()
>>> 				  mmap_write_lock()
>>> 				    pud = pudp_get()
>>> pud_free_pmd_page()
>>>    pud_clear()
>>> 				    access the table pointed to by pud
>>> 				    BANG!
>>>
>>> Surely the logic needs to be:
>>>
>>> 	if (static_branch_unlikely(&ptdump_lock_key)) {
>>> 		mmap_read_lock(&init_mm);
>>> 		lock_taken = true;
>>> 	}
>>> 	pud_clear(pudp);
>>> 	if (unlikely(lock_taken))
>>> 		mmap_read_unlock(&init_mm);
>>>
>>> That fixes your first case, I think? But doesn't fix your second case. You could
>>> still have:
>>>
>>> CPU1 (vmalloc)			CPU2 (ptdump)
>>>
>>> pud_free_pmd_page()
>>>    <ptdump_lock_key=FALSE>
>>> 				static_branch_enable()
>>> 				  mmap_write_lock()
>>> 				    pud = pudp_get()
>>>    pud_clear()
>>> 				    access the table pointed to by pud
>>> 				    BANG!
>>>
>>> I think what you need is some sort of RCU read-size critical section in the
>>> vmalloc side that you can then synchonize on in the ptdump side. But you would
>>> need to be in the read side critical section when you sample the static key, but
>>> you can't sleep waiting for the mmap lock while in the critical section. This
>>> feels solvable, and there is almost certainly a well-used pattern, but I'm not
>>> quite sure what the answer is. Perhaps others can help...
>> Just taking a step back here, I found the "percpu rw semaphore". From the
>> documentation:
>>
>> """
>> Percpu rw semaphores is a new read-write semaphore design that is
>> optimized for locking for reading.
>>
>> The problem with traditional read-write semaphores is that when multiple
>> cores take the lock for reading, the cache line containing the semaphore
>> is bouncing between L1 caches of the cores, causing performance
>> degradation.
>>
>> Locking for reading is very fast, it uses RCU and it avoids any atomic
>> instruction in the lock and unlock path. On the other hand, locking for
>> writing is very expensive, it calls synchronize_rcu() that can take
>> hundreds of milliseconds.
>> """
>>
>> Perhaps this provides the properties we are looking for? Could just define one
>> of these and lock it in read mode around pXd_clear() on the vmalloc side. Then
>> lock it in write mode around ptdump_walk_pgd() on the ptdump side. No need for
>> static key or other hoops. Given its a dedicated lock, there is no risk of
>> accidental contention because no other code is using it.
>>
> Write-lock indeed is super expensive, as you noted it blocks on
> synchronize_rcu(). If that write-lock interferes with a critical
> vmalloc fast path, where a read-lock could be injected, then it
> is definitely a problem.

I have a question - is this pmd_free_pte_page/pud_free_pmd_page part of
a fast path?

>   
>
> I have not analysed this patch series. I need to have a look what
> "ptdump" does.
>
> --
> Uladzislau Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-18  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-16 10:33 Dev Jain
2025-06-16 15:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-16 16:34   ` Dev Jain
2025-06-16 18:07 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-16 21:20   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-17 11:51     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-06-18  3:11       ` Dev Jain [this message]
2025-06-18 17:19         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-06-19  3:13           ` Dev Jain
2025-06-18 11:21       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-18 17:19         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-06-17  2:54   ` Dev Jain
2025-06-17  3:59     ` Dev Jain
2025-06-17  8:12       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-17  8:58         ` Dev Jain
2025-06-25 10:35 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-25 11:12   ` Dev Jain
2025-06-25 11:16     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-25 11:25       ` Dev Jain

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