From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org
Cc: anshuman.khandual@arm.com, quic_zhenhuah@quicinc.com,
kevin.brodsky@arm.com, yangyicong@hisilicon.com,
joey.gouly@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, david@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] arm64: Enable vmalloc-huge with ptdump
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 14:28:14 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <eaa10f47-210f-4f8e-86a9-42fdd0ebdf48@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1876bc1-94f5-46d0-b51d-12537d979830@arm.com>
On 17/06/25 1:42 pm, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 17/06/2025 04:59, Dev Jain wrote:
>> On 17/06/25 8:24 am, Dev Jain wrote:
>>> On 16/06/25 11:37 pm, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>> On 16/06/2025 11:33, Dev Jain wrote:
>>>>> arm64 disables vmalloc-huge when kernel page table dumping is enabled,
>>>>> because an intermediate table may be removed, potentially causing the
>>>>> ptdump code to dereference an invalid address. We want to be able to
>>>>> analyze block vs page mappings for kernel mappings with ptdump, so to
>>>>> enable vmalloc-huge with ptdump, synchronize between page table removal in
>>>>> pmd_free_pte_page()/pud_free_pmd_page() and ptdump pagetable walking. We
>>>>> use mmap_read_lock and not write lock because we don't need to synchronize
>>>>> between two different vm_structs; two vmalloc objects running this same
>>>>> code path will point to different page tables, hence there is no race.
>>>>>
>>>>> For pud_free_pmd_page(), we isolate the PMD table to avoid taking the lock
>>>>> 512 times again via pmd_free_pte_page().
>>>>>
>>>>> We implement the locking mechanism using static keys, since the chance
>>>>> of a race is very small. Observe that the synchronization is needed
>>>>> to avoid the following race:
>>>>>
>>>>> CPU1 CPU2
>>>>> take reference of PMD table
>>>>> pud_clear()
>>>>> pte_free_kernel()
>>>>> walk freed PMD table
>>>>>
>>>>> and similar race between pmd_free_pte_page and ptdump_walk_pgd.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore, there are two cases: if ptdump sees the cleared PUD, then
>>>>> we are safe. If not, then the patched-in read and write locks help us
>>>>> avoid the race.
>>>>>
>>>>> To implement the mechanism, we need the static key access from mmu.c and
>>>>> ptdump.c. Note that in case !CONFIG_PTDUMP_DEBUGFS, ptdump.o won't be a
>>>>> target in the Makefile, therefore we cannot initialize the key there, as
>>>>> is being done, for example, in the static key implementation of
>>>>> hugetlb-vmemmap. Therefore, include asm/cpufeature.h, which includes
>>>>> the jump_label mechanism. Declare the key there and define the key to false
>>>>> in mmu.c.
>>>>>
>>>>> No issues were observed with mm-selftests. No issues were observed while
>>>>> parallelly running test_vmalloc.sh and dumping the kernel pagetable through
>>>>> sysfs in a loop.
>>>>>
>>>>> v2->v3:
>>>>> - Use static key mechanism
>>>>>
>>>>> v1->v2:
>>>>> - Take lock only when CONFIG_PTDUMP_DEBUGFS is on
>>>>> - In case of pud_free_pmd_page(), isolate the PMD table to avoid taking
>>>>> the lock 512 times again via pmd_free_pte_page()
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> arch/arm64/include/asm/cpufeature.h | 1 +
>>>>> arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c | 51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>>>> arch/arm64/mm/ptdump.c | 5 +++
>>>>> 3 files changed, 53 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>>>
> [...]
>
>>>>> + pud_clear(pudp);
>>>> How can this possibly be correct; you're clearing the pud without any
>>>> synchronisation. So you could have this situation:
>>>>
>>>> CPU1 (vmalloc) CPU2 (ptdump)
>>>>
>>>> static_branch_enable()
>>>> mmap_write_lock()
>>>> pud = pudp_get()
>>> When you do pudp_get(), you won't be dereferencing a NULL pointer.
>>> pud_clear() will nullify the pud entry. So pudp_get() will boil
>>> down to retrieving a NULL entry. Or, pudp_get() will retrieve an
>>> entry pointing to the now isolated PMD table. Correct me if I am
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>>> pud_free_pmd_page()
>>>> pud_clear()
>>>> access the table pointed to by pud
>>>> BANG!
>> I am also confused thoroughly now : ) This should not go bang as the
>>
>> table pointed to by pud is still there, and our sequence guarantees that
>>
>> if the ptdump walk is using the pmd table, then pud_free_pmd_page won't
>>
>> free the PMD table yet.
> You're right... I'm not sure what I was smoking last night. For some reason I
> read the pXd_clear() as "free". This approach looks good to me - very clever!
> And you even managed to ensure the WRITE_ONCE() in pXd_clear() doesn't get
> reordered after taking the lock via the existing dsb in the tlb maintenance
> operation - I like it!
Haha! It indeed was very confusing, the important observation separating this
from other cases was that ptdump only cares about reading the tables, not about
what it reads.
>
> I'll send a separate review with some nits, but I'm out today, so that might
> have to wait until tomorrow.
>
> Thanks, and sorry again for the noise!
Ah no it was not noise : ) Sure, enjoy.
> Ryan
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-17 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-16 10:33 Dev Jain
2025-06-16 15:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-16 16:34 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-16 18:07 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-16 21:20 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-17 11:51 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-06-18 3:11 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-18 17:19 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-06-19 3:13 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-18 11:21 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-18 17:19 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-06-17 2:54 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-17 3:59 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-17 8:12 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-17 8:58 ` Dev Jain [this message]
2025-06-25 10:35 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-25 11:12 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-25 11:16 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-06-25 11:25 ` Dev Jain
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