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From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>
Cc: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>,
	Jason Uhlenkott <jasonuhl@jasonuhl.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kfree(0) - ok?
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:34:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <912C3FD2-3B6D-4328-8485-657F63CC6552@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708151604360.15707@fbirervta.pbzchgretzou.qr>

On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:06:49, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Aug 15 2007 09:58, Kyle Moffett wrote:
>> Irrespective of whatever the standard says, EVERY platform and  
>> compiler anybody makes nowadays has a NULL pointer value with all  
>> bits clear.  Theoretically the standard allows otherwise, but such  
>> a decision would break so much code.  Linux especially, we rely on  
>> the uninitialized data to have all bits clear and we depend on  
>> that producing NULL pointers; if a NULL pointer was not bitwise  
>> exactly 0 then the test "if (some_ptr != NULL)" would fail and we  
>> would start dereferencing garbage.
>
> But if kmalloc returns NULL on failure, then testing for NULL  
> (irrespective of being 0 or 0xDEADBEEF) is ok.  What would actually  
> concern me then is what "if (!some_ptr)" would do. Probably not the  
> right thing.

Well, what I was referring to is:

static struct foo *some_ptr;

/* Assumes that $SOME_LOCK is held */
int initialize_foo_module()
{
	if (!some_ptr) {
		some_ptr = kmalloc(sizeof(*some_ptr));
		if (!some_ptr)
			return -ENOMEM;

		/* ... */
	}

	/* ... */
}


We initialize all of the static data to all-bits-clear zeros during  
kernel init.  Any platform on which the binary representations of  
"(unsigned long)0" and "(void *)0" are different (even in length, due  
to other issues) will not run the Linux kernel as it stands today.

And as to the sizeof(unsigned long) == sizeof(void *) issue, please  
remember that every Linux compiler is either ILP32 (int, long, and  
pointer are 32-bit) or LP64 (int is 32-bit and long/pointer are 64- 
bit).  We sort of fundamentally rely on these properties in code all  
over the place.

So yes the Linux kernel "breaks the standard" in a bunch of places,  
but on the other hand we're not your average software and we don't  
have to worry about building on an LLP64 compiler (Windows 64-bit and  
some UNIXes) or other strangeness.

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett


  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-15 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-14 22:59 Tim Bird
2007-08-14 22:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-14 23:21   ` Jason Uhlenkott
2007-08-15  7:28     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-15  8:37       ` Rene Herman
2007-08-15  9:20         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-15  9:43           ` Jason Uhlenkott
2007-08-15  9:58           ` Rene Herman
2007-08-15 10:20             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-15 10:27               ` Rene Herman
2007-08-15 13:58               ` Kyle Moffett
2007-08-15 14:06                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-15 14:34                   ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2007-08-15 16:01               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-15  8:52       ` Jason Uhlenkott
2007-08-15  9:18       ` Andreas Schwab
2007-08-15  9:32       ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-08-14 23:42   ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-15  0:19     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-17 18:22     ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-17 18:31       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-08-17 18:50         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 18:37       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-17 20:43       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-17 21:17         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 21:32           ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 21:13       ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-17 21:14         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-17 21:42           ` Pekka Enberg
2007-08-17 23:22             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-17 23:40             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-08-18  0:02               ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-18  1:03               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-18  8:10               ` Pekka Enberg
2007-08-18  8:21               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-17 21:46           ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-14 23:13 ` Satyam Sharma
     [not found] <fa.oMJ6o9vN0dnAoFR83/o4hg1EptE@ifi.uio.no>
2007-08-14 23:05 ` Robert Hancock

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