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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/16] x86/virt/tdx: Improve PAMT refcounts allocation for sparse memory
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 00:07:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <92f4d9766a5b381abeac6c4f6afcf0e4cba183d9.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69a2dee2-f6a5-4c1b-9daa-8c32ff7c3956@suse.com>
On Thu, 2025-11-27 at 09:36 +0200, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
> I agree with your analysis but this needs to be described not only in
> the commit message but also as a code comment because you intentionally
> omit locking since that particular pte (at that point) can only have a
> single user so no race conditions are possible.
While commenting and writing up the log reasoning for why this is safe, I ended
up revisiting why we need to do all this manual PTE modification in the first
place.
In Kiryl's v2 he had the vmalloc area allocated with VM_IOREMAP. Kai asked why,
and seemingly as a result, it was changed to VM_SPARSE. It turns out the
VM_SPARSE flag is a newer thing for dealing with sparsely populated vmalloc
address space mappings, exactly like we have here. It comes with some helpers
for mapping and unmapping sparse vmalloc ranges. So I played around with these a
bit.
The current apply_to_page_range() version is optimally efficient, but the
allocation is a one-time operation, and the freeing is actually only called in
an error path. I'm not sure it needs to be optimal.
If you use the helpers to populate, you pretty much just need to allocate all
the pages up front, and then call vm_area_map_pages() to map them. To unmap (the
error path), the code pattern is to iterate through the mapping a page at a
time, fetch the page with vmalloc_to_page(), unmap and free the page. At most
this is 2,097,152 iterations. Not fast, but not going to hang boot either.
So rather than the try to justify the locking, I'm thinking to go with a
stupider, simpler mapping/unmapping method that uses the ready made VM_SPARSE
helpers.
I hate to change things at this point, but I think the discussed reasoning is
going to beg the question of why it needs to be complicated.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-11 0:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-21 0:51 [PATCH v4 00/16] TDX: Enable Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/16] x86/tdx: Move all TDX error defines into <asm/shared/tdx_errno.h> Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25 22:30 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-25 22:44 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-26 23:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-26 23:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/16] x86/tdx: Add helpers to check return status codes Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-24 8:56 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-24 19:31 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-25 23:07 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-26 23:26 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/16] x86/virt/tdx: Simplify tdmr_get_pamt_sz() Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-24 9:26 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-24 19:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-25 1:27 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/16] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate page bitmap for Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25 1:50 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 17:56 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-24 9:10 ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-05 22:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-06 4:01 ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-06 17:00 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-07 6:01 ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-07 14:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-08 12:53 ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-08 16:52 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-09 2:18 ` Xu Yilun
2026-01-09 16:05 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-12 0:24 ` Xu Yilun
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/16] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate reference counters for PAMT memory Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/16] x86/virt/tdx: Improve PAMT refcounts allocation for sparse memory Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25 3:15 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 20:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27 15:57 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-01 22:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-26 14:45 ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-26 20:47 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27 7:36 ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-11 0:07 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-11-27 16:04 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add tdx_alloc/free_page() helpers Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25 8:09 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 22:28 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-29 1:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-29 17:18 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-29 19:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-29 19:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-26 1:21 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-26 22:28 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27 12:29 ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-01 22:31 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27 16:11 ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-01 22:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-02 7:38 ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-02 20:02 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-03 13:46 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-03 13:48 ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-12-03 15:41 ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-03 18:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-03 18:21 ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-03 19:59 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-03 20:13 ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-03 21:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-03 21:40 ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-08 9:15 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-08 20:27 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 23:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-16 23:25 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-16 23:40 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/16] x86/virt/tdx: Optimize " Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/16] KVM: TDX: Allocate PAMT memory for TD control structures Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25 9:11 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/16] KVM: TDX: Allocate PAMT memory for vCPU " Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-25 9:14 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 11/16] KVM: TDX: Add x86 ops for external spt cache Rick Edgecombe
2026-01-17 0:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-19 2:31 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-20 8:42 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-20 9:18 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-20 10:00 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-20 19:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-01-21 22:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-21 22:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 12/16] x86/virt/tdx: Add helpers to allow for pre-allocating pages Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-26 3:40 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 5:21 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 22:33 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-27 2:38 ` Binbin Wu
2026-01-20 7:10 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-20 7:46 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-20 8:01 ` Huang, Kai
2026-01-17 1:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-21 0:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-01-21 0:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 13/16] KVM: TDX: Handle PAMT allocation in fault path Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-26 5:56 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 22:33 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 14/16] KVM: TDX: Reclaim PAMT memory Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-26 8:53 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 22:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 15/16] x86/virt/tdx: Enable Dynamic PAMT Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-21 0:51 ` [PATCH v4 16/16] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for TDX's " Rick Edgecombe
2025-11-26 10:33 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-26 20:05 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-11-24 20:18 ` [PATCH v4 00/16] TDX: Enable " Sagi Shahar
2025-11-25 20:19 ` Vishal Annapurve
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