From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] arm64/mm: Intercept pfn changes in set_pte_at()
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 11:28:12 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <93461768-791A-45BE-BEF2-344CC5228C92@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230203101023.GA5597@willie-the-truck>
> On Feb 3, 2023, at 18:10, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2023 at 10:40:18AM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2023, at 18:45, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 05:51:39PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 20:20, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Bah, sorry! Catalin reckons it may have been him talking about the vmemmap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed. The discussion with Anshuman started from this thread:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221025014215.3466904-1-mawupeng1@huawei.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> We already trip over the existing checks even without Anshuman's patch,
>>>>> though only by chance. We are not setting the software PTE_DIRTY on the
>>>>> new pte (we don't bother with this bit for kernel mappings).
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that the vmemmap ptes are still live when such change happens and
>>>>> no-one came with a solution to the break-before-make problem, I propose
>>>>> we revert the arm64 part of commit 47010c040dec ("mm: hugetlb_vmemmap:
>>>>> cleanup CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP*"). We just need this hunk:
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
>>>>> index 27b2592698b0..5263454a5794 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
>>>>> @@ -100,7 +100,6 @@ config ARM64
>>>>> select ARCH_WANT_DEFAULT_TOPDOWN_MMAP_LAYOUT
>>>>> select ARCH_WANT_FRAME_POINTERS
>>>>> select ARCH_WANT_HUGE_PMD_SHARE if ARM64_4K_PAGES || (ARM64_16K_PAGES && !ARM64_VA_BITS_36)
>>>>> - select ARCH_WANT_HUGETLB_PAGE_OPTIMIZE_VMEMMAP
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it is a little overkill for HVO as it can significantly minimize the
>>>> overhead of vmemmap on ARM64 servers for some workloads (like qemu, DPDK).
>>>> So I don't think disabling it is a good approach. Indeed, HVO broke BBM,
>>>> but the waring does not affect anything since the tail vmemmap pages are
>>>> supposed to be read-only. So, I suggest skipping warnings if it is the
>>>> vmemmap address in set_pte_at(). What do you think of?
>>>
>>> IIUC, vmemmap_remap_pte() not only makes the pte read-only but also
>>> changes the output address. Architecturally, this needs a BBM sequence.
>>> We can avoid going through an invalid pte if we first make the pte
>>> read-only, TLBI but keeping the same pfn, followed by a change of the
>>> pfn while keeping the pte readonly. This also assumes that the content
>>> of the page pointed at by the pte is the same at both old and new pfn.
>>
>> Right. I think using BBM is to avoid possibly creating multiple TLB entries
>> for the same address for a extremely short period. But accessing either the
>> old page or the new page is fine in this case. Is it acceptable for this
>> special case without using BBM?
>
> Sadly, the architecture allows the CPU to conjure up a mapping based on a
> combination of the old and the new descriptor (a process known as
> "amalgamation") so we _really_ need the BBM sequence.
I am not familiar with ARM64, what's the user-visible effect if this
"amalgamation" occurs?
Muchun,
Thanks.
>
> I'm in favour of disabling the optimisation now and bringing it back once
> we've got this fixed.
>
> Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-06 3:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-09 5:28 Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-24 5:41 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-26 13:33 ` Will Deacon
2023-01-27 12:43 ` Robin Murphy
2023-01-31 15:49 ` Will Deacon
2023-02-01 12:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2023-02-02 9:51 ` Muchun Song
2023-02-02 10:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2023-02-03 2:40 ` Muchun Song
2023-02-03 10:10 ` Will Deacon
2023-02-06 3:28 ` Muchun Song [this message]
2023-02-07 14:31 ` Will Deacon
2023-02-08 3:13 ` Muchun Song
2023-02-08 17:27 ` Mark Rutland
2023-02-10 6:50 ` Muchun Song
2023-01-27 15:16 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-30 8:16 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-30 10:08 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-27 15:14 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-31 2:57 ` Anshuman Khandual
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