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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Josh Poimboeuf' <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: "'x86@kernel.org'" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	'Linus Torvalds' <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	'Al Viro' <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"'Will Deacon'" <will@kernel.org>,
	'Dan Williams' <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"'Andrea Arcangeli'" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	'Waiman Long' <longman@redhat.com>,
	"'Peter Zijlstra'" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	'Thomas Gleixner' <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	'Andrew Cooper' <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	'Andy Lutomirski' <luto@kernel.org>,
	'Christoph Hellwig' <hch@lst.de>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] x86/uaccess: Use pointer masking to limit uaccess speculation
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 08:32:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93873def6ede46f89fa33b3fc78876f6@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200831173112.fjfnnup5cfc5t226@treble>

From: Josh Poimboeuf
> Sent: 31 August 2020 18:31
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 07:31:20PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > > Rereading the patch it looks like a lot of bloat (as well as a
> > > lot of changes).
> > > Does the array_mask even work on 32bit archs where the kernel
> > > base address is 0xc0000000?
> 
> Why wouldn't it on work on 32-bit?  My patch does have a minor compile
> bug on 32-bit, but otherwise it seems to work (i.e., the asm looks ok,
> and it boots).

As usual I hadn't looked closely enough into the masked_array internals.

...
> > Actually, thinking further, if:
> > 1) the access_ok() immediately precedes the user copy (as it should).
> > 2) the user-copies use a sensible 'increasing address' copy.
> > and
> > 3) there is a 'guard page' between valid user and kernel addresses.
> > Then access_ok() only need check the base address of the user buffer.
> 
> Yes, it would make sense to put the masking in access_ok() somehow.  But
> to do it properly, I think we'd first need to make access_ok() generic.
> Maybe that's do-able, but it would be a much bigger patch set.
> 
> First I'd prefer to just fix x86, like my patch does.  Then we could do
> an access_ok() rework.

If you do a modified access_ok() you get to (slowly) collect all
the important paths.
No point replicating the same test.

A lot of the access_ok() can be deleted - maybe remove some __
from the following functions.
Or change to the variants that enable user-space accesses.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-01  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-19 14:50 Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-19 16:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-19 17:02   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-19 21:30     ` David Laight
2020-08-20  0:18     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-28 19:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-29 13:21   ` David Laight
2020-08-29 19:31     ` David Laight
2020-08-31 17:31       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01  8:32         ` David Laight [this message]
2020-09-01 14:26           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01 15:00             ` David Laight
2020-09-01 15:24               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01 14:02 ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-01 14:21   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01 14:52     ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-01 14:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-01 14:54     ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-01 15:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-01 15:46         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-02 11:43           ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-02 13:32             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-02 17:23               ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-03  6:56                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-04 16:00                   ` Mark Rutland

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