From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
wuyun.abel@bytedance.com, youssefesmat@chromium.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, efault@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/24] sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 09:53:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <93e73a42-0afc-4749-89db-73b9f72c8b0b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241104125009.GA749675@pauld.westford.csb>
On 11/4/24 12:50, Phil Auld wrote:
>
> Hi Dietmar,
>
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 10:28:37AM +0100 Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
>> Hi Phil,
>>
>> On 01/11/2024 13:47, Phil Auld wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Peterm
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 12:27:49PM +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> Extend / fix 86bfbb7ce4f6 ("sched/fair: Add lag based placement") by
>>>> noting that lag is fundamentally a temporal measure. It should not be
>>>> carried around indefinitely.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH it should also not be instantly discarded, doing so will allow a
>>>> task to game the system by purposefully (micro) sleeping at the end of
>>>> its time quantum.
>>>>
>>>> Since lag is intimately tied to the virtual time base, a wall-time
>>>> based decay is also insufficient, notably competition is required for
>>>> any of this to make sense.
>>>>
>>>> Instead, delay the dequeue and keep the 'tasks' on the runqueue,
>>>> competing until they are eligible.
>>>>
>>>> Strictly speaking, we only care about keeping them until the 0-lag
>>>> point, but that is a difficult proposition, instead carry them around
>>>> until they get picked again, and dequeue them at that point.
>>>
>>> This one is causing a 10-20% performance hit on our filesystem tests.
>>>
>>> On 6.12-rc5 (so with the latest follow ons) we get:
>>>
>>> with DELAY_DEQUEUE the bandwidth is 510 MB/s
>>> with NO_DELAY_DEQUEUE the bandwidth is 590 MB/s
>>>
>>> The test is fio, something like this:
>>>
>>> taskset -c 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 fio --rw randwrite --bs 4k --runtime 1m --fsync 0 --iodepth 32 --direct 1 --ioengine libaio --numjobs 8 --size 30g --nrfiles 1 --loops 1 --name default --randrepeat 1 --time_based --group_reporting --directory /testfs
>>
>> I'm not seeing this on my i7-13700K running tip sched/core (1a6151017ee5
>> - sched: psi: pass enqueue/dequeue flags to psi callbacks directly
>> (2024-10-26 Johannes Weiner)) (6.12.0-rc4 - based)
>>
>> Using 'taskset 0xaaaaa' avoiding SMT and running only on P-cores.
>>
>> vanilla features: 990MB/s (mean out of 5 runs, σ: 9.38)
>> NO_DELAY_DEQUEUE: 992MB/s (mean out of 5 runs, σ: 10.61)
>>
>> # sudo lshw -class disk -class storage
>> *-nvme
>> description: NVMe device
>> product: GIGABYTE GP-ASM2NE6500GTTD
>> vendor: Phison Electronics Corporation
>> physical id: 0
>> bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
>> logical name: /dev/nvme0
>> version: EGFM13.2
>> ...
>> capabilities: nvme pciexpress msix msi pm nvm_express bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=nvme latency=0 nqn=nqn.2014.08.org.nvmexpress:19871987SN215108954872 GIGABYTE GP-ASM2NE6500GTTD state=live
>> resources: irq:16 memory:70800000-70803fff
>>
>> # mount | grep ^/dev/nvme0
>> /dev/nvme0n1p2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
>>
>> Which disk device you're using?
>
> Most of the reports are on various NVME drives (samsung mostly I think).
>
>
> One thing I should add is that it's all on LVM:
>
>
> vgcreate vg /dev/nvme0n1 -y
> lvcreate -n thinMeta -L 3GB vg -y
> lvcreate -n thinPool -l 99%FREE vg -y
> lvconvert --thinpool /dev/mapper/vg-thinPool --poolmetadata /dev/mapper/vg-thinMeta -Zn -y
> lvcreate -n testLV -V 1300G --thinpool thinPool vg
> wipefs -a /dev/mapper/vg-testLV
> mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/vg-testLV -E lazy_itable_init=0,lazy_journal_init=0 -F
> mount /dev/mapper/vg-testLV /testfs
>
>
> With VDO or thinpool (as above) it shows on both ext4 and xfs. With fs on
> drive directly it's a little more variable. Some it shows on xfs, some it show
> on ext4 and not vice-versa, seems to depend on the drive or hw raid. But when
> it shows it's 100% reproducible on that setup.
>
> It's always the randwrite numbers. The rest look fine.
Hi Phil,
Thanks for the detailed instructions. Unfortunately even with your LVM setup on
the platforms I've tried I don't see a regression so far, all the numbers are
about equal for DELAY_DEQUEUE and NO_DELAY_DEQUEUE.
Anyway I have some follow-ups, first let me trim the fio command for readability:
fio --rw randwrite --bs 4k --runtime 1m --fsync 0 --iodepth 32 --direct 1 --ioengine libaio --numjobs 8 --size 30g --nrfiles 1 --loops 1 --name default --randrepeat 1 --time_based --group_reporting --directory /testfs
dropping defaults nr_files, loops, fsync, randrepeat
fio --rw randwrite --bs 4k --runtime 1m --iodepth 32 --direct 1 --ioengine libaio --numjobs 8 --size 30g --name default --time_based --group_reporting --directory /testfs
Adding the CPU affinities directly:
fio --cpus_allowed 1-8 --rw randwrite --bs 4k --runtime 1m --iodepth 32 --direct 1 --ioengine libaio --numjobs 8 --size 30g --name default --time_based --group_reporting --directory /testfs
Now I was wondering about the following:
Is it actually the kworker (not another fio) being preempted? (I'm pretty sure it is)
To test: --cpus_allowed_policy split (each fio process gets it's own CPU).
You wrote:
>I was thinking maybe the preemption was preventing some batching of IO completions or
>initiations. But that was wrong it seems.
So while it doesn't reproduce for me, the only thing being preempted regularly is
the kworker (running iomap_dio_complete_work). I don't quite follow the "that was
wrong it seems" part then. Could you elaborate?
Could you also post the other benchmark numbers? Does any of them score higher in IOPS?
Is --rw write the same issue if you set --bs 4k (assuming you set a larger bs for seqwrite).
Can you set the kworkers handling completions to SCHED_BATCH too? Just to confirm.
Regards,
Christian
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2024-07-27 10:27 [PATCH 00/24] Complete EEVDF Peter Zijlstra
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2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 02/24] sched/eevdf: Remove min_vruntime_copy Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 03/24] sched/fair: Cleanup pick_task_fair() vs throttle Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 04/24] sched/fair: Cleanup pick_task_fair()s curr Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Cleanup pick_task_fair()'s curr tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 05/24] sched/fair: Unify pick_{,next_}_task_fair() Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 06/24] sched: Allow sched_class::dequeue_task() to fail Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 07/24] sched/fair: Re-organize dequeue_task_fair() Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-09 16:53 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-08-10 22:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-12 10:02 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 08/24] sched: Split DEQUEUE_SLEEP from deactivate_task() Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 09/24] sched: Prepare generic code for delayed dequeue Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 10/24] sched/uclamg: Handle " Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-19 9:14 ` Christian Loehle
2024-08-20 16:23 ` [PATCH 10/24] " Hongyan Xia
2024-08-21 13:34 ` Hongyan Xia
2024-08-22 8:19 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-22 8:21 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-22 9:21 ` Luis Machado
2024-08-22 9:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-22 10:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-22 10:28 ` Luis Machado
2024-08-22 12:07 ` Luis Machado
2024-08-22 12:10 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-22 14:58 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-29 15:42 ` Hongyan Xia
2024-09-05 13:02 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-09-05 13:33 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-05 14:07 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-09-05 14:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-05 14:50 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-09-05 14:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-06 6:14 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-09-06 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-08 7:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-09-10 8:09 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/eevdf: More PELT vs DELAYED_DEQUEUE tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-27 4:17 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-27 9:34 ` Luis Machado
2024-11-28 6:35 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-09-10 11:04 ` [PATCH 10/24] sched/uclamg: Handle delayed dequeue Luis Machado
2024-09-10 14:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-11 8:35 ` Luis Machado
2024-09-11 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-11 8:55 ` Luis Machado
2024-09-11 9:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-09-11 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-11 9:27 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-09-12 14:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-09-13 16:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-09-14 3:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-09-24 15:16 ` Luis Machado
2024-09-24 17:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-09-25 5:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-09-11 11:49 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-09-11 9:38 ` Luis Machado
2024-09-12 12:58 ` Luis Machado
2024-09-12 20:44 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-09-11 10:46 ` Luis Machado
2024-09-06 9:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-09-05 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-10 8:09 ` [tip: sched/core] kernel/sched: Fix util_est accounting for DELAY_DEQUEUE tip-bot2 for Dietmar Eggemann
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 11/24] sched/fair: Assert {set_next,put_prev}_entity() are properly balanced Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 12/24] sched/fair: Prepare exit/cleanup paths for delayed_dequeue Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-13 12:43 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-08-13 21:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-13 22:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-14 5:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-27 9:35 ` Chen Yu
2024-08-27 20:29 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-08-28 2:55 ` Chen Yu
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-27 9:17 ` [PATCH 12/24] " Chen Yu
2024-08-28 3:06 ` Chen Yu
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 13/24] sched/fair: Prepare pick_next_task() for delayed dequeue Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-10 9:16 ` [PATCH 13/24] " Luis Machado
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 14/24] sched/fair: Implement ENQUEUE_DELAYED Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 15/24] sched,freezer: Mark TASK_FROZEN special Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 16/24] sched: Teach dequeue_task() about special task states Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 17/24] sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-02 14:39 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-08-02 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-02 16:32 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-19 10:01 ` [PATCH 17/24] " Luis Machado
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2024-08-28 22:38 ` Marek Szyprowski
2024-10-10 2:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-10 7:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-10-10 16:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-10 17:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-10-10 8:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 9:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 18:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-12 14:15 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched: Fix external p->on_rq users tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-14 7:28 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/fair: " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-01 12:47 ` [PATCH 17/24] sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue Phil Auld
2024-11-01 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-01 13:38 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-01 14:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-01 14:42 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-01 18:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-11-01 20:07 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-02 4:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-11-04 13:05 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-05 4:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-11-05 4:22 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-05 6:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-11-06 3:02 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-05 15:20 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-05 19:05 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-06 2:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-11-06 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2024-11-06 15:22 ` Mike Galbraith
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2024-11-07 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-08 0:24 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Dequeue sched_delayed tasks when waking to a busy CPU Mike Galbraith
2024-11-08 13:34 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-11 2:46 ` Xuewen Yan
2024-11-11 3:53 ` Mike Galbraith
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2024-11-12 14:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-11-12 15:41 ` Phil Auld
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2024-11-19 11:30 ` Phil Auld
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2024-11-20 18:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-11-21 11:56 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-21 12:07 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-21 21:21 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-23 8:44 ` [PATCH V2] " Mike Galbraith
2024-11-26 5:32 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-26 6:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-11-26 9:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-12-02 19:15 ` Phil Auld
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2024-12-02 16:24 ` Phil Auld
2024-12-02 16:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-12-02 19:12 ` Phil Auld
2024-12-09 13:11 ` Phil Auld
2024-12-09 15:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-11-06 14:14 ` [PATCH 17/24] sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue Mike Galbraith
2024-11-06 14:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-04 9:28 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-04 11:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-04 12:50 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-05 9:53 ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2024-11-05 15:55 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-08 14:53 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-11-08 18:16 ` Phil Auld
2024-11-11 11:29 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 18/24] sched/fair: Implement DELAY_ZERO Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 19/24] sched/eevdf: Fixup PELT vs DELAYED_DEQUEUE Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-13 12:43 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-08-13 22:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-14 7:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-14 7:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-14 10:23 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-08-14 12:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-17 23:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-19 12:50 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 20/24] sched/fair: Avoid re-setting virtual deadline on migrations Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-18 6:23 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Avoid re-setting virtual deadline on 'migrations' tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 21/24] sched/eevdf: Allow shorter slices to wakeup-preempt Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-05 12:24 ` Chunxin Zang
2024-08-07 17:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-13 10:44 ` Chunxin Zang
2024-08-08 10:15 ` Chen Yu
2024-08-08 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-08 12:31 ` Chen Yu
2024-08-09 7:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 22/24] sched/eevdf: Use sched_attr::sched_runtime to set request/slice suggestion Peter Zijlstra
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2024-07-27 10:27 ` [PATCH 23/24] sched/eevdf: Propagate min_slice up the cgroup hierarchy Peter Zijlstra
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2024-09-29 2:02 ` [PATCH 23/24] " Tianchen Ding
2024-07-27 10:27 ` [RFC PATCH 24/24] sched/time: Introduce CLOCK_THREAD_DVFS_ID Peter Zijlstra
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2024-08-01 12:08 ` [PATCH 00/24] Complete EEVDF Luis Machado
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2024-08-14 16:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-08-14 16:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-14 17:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-08-14 17:25 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-08-14 17:35 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-08-16 15:22 ` Valentin Schneider
2024-08-20 16:43 ` Hongyan Xia
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2024-08-21 16:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2024-08-22 15:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-08-27 9:43 ` Hongyan Xia
2024-08-29 17:02 ` Aleksandr Nogikh
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2024-09-10 14:52 ` Sven Schnelle
2024-11-06 1:07 ` Saravana Kannan
2024-11-06 6:19 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-06 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-06 12:06 ` Luis Machado
2024-11-08 7:07 ` Saravana Kannan
2024-11-08 23:17 ` Samuel Wu
2024-11-11 4:07 ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-26 23:32 ` Saravana Kannan
2024-11-28 10:32 ` [REGRESSION] " Marcel Ziswiler
2024-11-28 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-28 11:37 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2024-11-29 9:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-02 18:46 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2024-12-09 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-10 16:05 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2024-12-10 16:13 ` Steven Rostedt
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