From: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com,
yihyu@redhat.com, shan.gavin@gmail.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
mochs@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio_ring: Fix the stale index in available ring
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:56:58 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9500adaf-0075-4ae9-92db-7e310b6598b0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240319182251.GB3121@willie-the-truck>
On 3/20/24 04:22, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 02:59:23PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
>> On 3/19/24 02:59, Will Deacon wrote:
>>>> drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c | 12 +++++++++---
>>>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
>>>> index 49299b1f9ec7..7d852811c912 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
>>>> @@ -687,9 +687,15 @@ static inline int virtqueue_add_split(struct virtqueue *_vq,
>>>> avail = vq->split.avail_idx_shadow & (vq->split.vring.num - 1);
>>>> vq->split.vring.avail->ring[avail] = cpu_to_virtio16(_vq->vdev, head);
>>>> - /* Descriptors and available array need to be set before we expose the
>>>> - * new available array entries. */
>>>> - virtio_wmb(vq->weak_barriers);
>>>> + /*
>>>> + * Descriptors and available array need to be set before we expose
>>>> + * the new available array entries. virtio_wmb() should be enough
>>>> + * to ensuere the order theoretically. However, a stronger barrier
>>>> + * is needed by ARM64. Otherwise, the stale data can be observed
>>>> + * by the host (vhost). A stronger barrier should work for other
>>>> + * architectures, but performance loss is expected.
>>>> + */
>>>> + virtio_mb(false);
>>>> vq->split.avail_idx_shadow++;
>>>> vq->split.vring.avail->idx = cpu_to_virtio16(_vq->vdev,
>>>> vq->split.avail_idx_shadow);
>>>
>>> Replacing a DMB with a DSB is _very_ unlikely to be the correct solution
>>> here, especially when ordering accesses to coherent memory.
>>>
>>> In practice, either the larger timing different from the DSB or the fact
>>> that you're going from a Store->Store barrier to a full barrier is what
>>> makes things "work" for you. Have you tried, for example, a DMB SY
>>> (e.g. via __smb_mb()).
>>>
>>> We definitely shouldn't take changes like this without a proper
>>> explanation of what is going on.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for your comments, Will.
>>
>> Yes, DMB should work for us. However, it seems this instruction has issues on
>> NVidia's grace-hopper. It's hard for me to understand how DMB and DSB works
>> from hardware level. I agree it's not the solution to replace DMB with DSB
>> before we fully understand the root cause.
>>
>> I tried the possible replacement like below. __smp_mb() can avoid the issue like
>> __mb() does. __ndelay(10) can avoid the issue, but __ndelay(9) doesn't.
>>
>> static inline int virtqueue_add_split(struct virtqueue *_vq, ...)
>> {
>> :
>> /* Put entry in available array (but don't update avail->idx until they
>> * do sync). */
>> avail = vq->split.avail_idx_shadow & (vq->split.vring.num - 1);
>> vq->split.vring.avail->ring[avail] = cpu_to_virtio16(_vq->vdev, head);
>>
>> /* Descriptors and available array need to be set before we expose the
>> * new available array entries. */
>> // Broken: virtio_wmb(vq->weak_barriers);
>> // Broken: __dma_mb();
>> // Work: __mb();
>> // Work: __smp_mb();
>
> It's pretty weird that __dma_mb() is "broken" but __smp_mb() "works". How
> confident are you in that result?
>
Yes, __dma_mb() is even stronger than __smp_mb(). I retried the test, showing
that both __dma_mb() and __smp_mb() work for us. I had too many tests yesterday
and something may have been messed up.
Instruction Hitting times in 10 tests
---------------------------------------------
__smp_wmb() 8
__smp_mb() 0
__dma_wmb() 7
__dma_mb() 0
__mb() 0
__wmb() 0
It's strange that __smp_mb() works, but __smp_wmb() fails. It seems we need a
read barrier here. I will try WRITE_ONCE() + __smp_wmb() as suggested by Michael
in another reply. Will update the result soon.
Thanks,
Gavin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-19 23:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-14 7:49 Gavin Shan
2024-03-14 8:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-14 10:15 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-14 11:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-14 12:50 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-14 12:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-15 10:45 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-15 11:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-15 11:24 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-17 16:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-17 23:41 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-18 7:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-18 16:59 ` Will Deacon
2024-03-19 4:59 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-19 6:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 6:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 6:54 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-19 7:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 7:41 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-19 8:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 6:38 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-19 6:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 6:49 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-19 7:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 8:08 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-19 8:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 18:22 ` Will Deacon
2024-03-19 23:56 ` Gavin Shan [this message]
2024-03-20 0:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-20 5:24 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-20 7:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-25 7:34 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-26 7:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-26 9:38 ` Keir Fraser
2024-03-26 11:43 ` Will Deacon
2024-03-26 15:46 ` Will Deacon
2024-03-26 23:14 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-27 0:01 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-27 11:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-20 17:15 ` Keir Fraser
2024-03-21 12:06 ` Gavin Shan
2024-03-19 7:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-03-19 18:21 ` Will Deacon
2024-03-19 6:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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