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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: Geoffrey McRae <geoff@rabidhost.com>
Cc: Peter Teoh <htmldeveloper@gmail.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Nick Andrew <nick@nick-andrew.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New Security Features, Please Comment
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:35:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95180.1228448127@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:30:54 +1100." <1228429854.7546.6.camel@lappy.spacevs.com>

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:30:54 +1100, Geoffrey McRae said:
> On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 16:56 -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

> > 	while (getpid()) msleep(1);
> > 	/* malicious code here */
> > 
> 
> This would only be dangerous if the parent did not wait for the child to
> finish its task before changing its uid, which for a FastCGI app, it has
> to as it needs the response to send back to the client. All that would
> happen here is the CGI script would sleep forever, or until the HTTP
> server killed the process.

Thus providing me with a way to DoS your webserver by sticking all your
server processes into a sleep-forever... :)

You're also overlooking the fact that the malicious code could do something
like this:

	/* send the parent something that makes it *think* the request finished */
	printf("We're all done now\n");
	while (getpid()) msleep (1);

Remember - whatever the child is doing to signal that it's done, can *also*
be done by the exploit code. There's only one real exception - the child
can call exit() - if the exploit exits so a SIGCHLD is generated, then
it can't run anymore.  However, since the whole *point* here is avoiding
the usual exit/fork/exec overhead...

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-05  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-02 23:28 Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-03  0:24 ` Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-03  0:53 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-03  1:44   ` Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-03  2:11     ` David Newall
2008-12-03  2:55     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-12-03  4:02       ` Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-03  4:35         ` Peter Teoh
2008-12-03  5:02           ` Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-03  6:54             ` David Newall
2008-12-03 10:29     ` Alan Cox
2008-12-03 12:42     ` Nick Andrew
2008-12-03 12:46       ` Alan Cox
2008-12-03 22:44       ` Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-03 23:08         ` Alan Cox
2008-12-03 23:27           ` Peter Teoh
2008-12-03 23:40             ` Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-04 21:56               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-12-04 22:30                 ` Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-05  3:35                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2008-12-05  3:44                     ` Nick Andrew
2008-12-05  3:50                     ` Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-05  4:03                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-12-03 23:39           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2008-12-04  0:00             ` Geoffrey McRae
2008-12-04  0:22               ` Peter Teoh
2008-12-04  0:08             ` Alan Cox

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