From: "Moger, Babu" <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v16 25/34] fs/resctrl: Add event configuration directory under info/L3_MON/
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 13:48:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <965b7252-5b9f-43cd-bb12-c0e0b203fdc3@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2245bbd-1bf8-4fad-9c1c-9f0848c7da39@intel.com>
Hi Reinette,
On 8/8/2025 1:23 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
>
> On 8/8/25 10:47 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> On 8/8/2025 10:12 AM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> On 8/8/25 6:56 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> On 7/30/2025 3:04 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>>> On 7/25/25 11:29 AM, Babu Moger wrote:
>>>>>> diff --git a/fs/resctrl/monitor.c b/fs/resctrl/monitor.c
>>>>>> index 16bcfeeb89e6..fa5f63126682 100644
>>>>>> --- a/fs/resctrl/monitor.c
>>>>>> +++ b/fs/resctrl/monitor.c
>>>>>> @@ -929,6 +929,29 @@ struct mbm_transaction mbm_transactions[NUM_MBM_TRANSACTIONS] = {
>>>>>> {"dirty_victim_writes_all", DIRTY_VICTIMS_TO_ALL_MEM},
>>>>>> };
>>>>>> +int event_filter_show(struct kernfs_open_file *of, struct seq_file *seq, void *v)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + struct mon_evt *mevt = rdt_kn_parent_priv(of->kn);
>>>>>> + bool sep = false;
>>>>>> + int i;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + mutex_lock(&rdtgroup_mutex);
>>>>>> +
>>>>> There is inconsistency among the files introduced on how
>>>>> "mbm_event mode disabled" case is handled. Some files return failure
>>>>> from their _show()/_write() when "mbm_event mode is disabled", some don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "event_filter" file always prints the MBM transactions monitored
>>>>> when assignable counters are supported, whether mbm_event mode is enabled
>>>>> or not. This means that the MBM event's configuration values are printed
>>>>> when "default" mode is enabled. I have two concerns about this
>>>>> 1) This is potentially very confusing since switching to "default" will
>>>>> make the BMEC files visible that will enable the user to modify the
>>>>> event configurations per domain. Having this file print a global event
>>>>> configuration while there are potentially various different domain-specific
>>>>> configuration active will be confusing.
>>>> Yes. I agree.
>>> hmmm ... ok, you say that you agree but I cannot tell if you are going to
>>> do anything about it.
>>>
>>> On a system with BMEC enabled the mbm_total_bytes_config and mbm_local_bytes_config
>>> files should be the *only* source of MBM event configuration information, no?
>> That is correct.
>>
>>
>>> It may be ok to have event_filter print configuration when assignable counters are disabled
>>> if BMEC is not supported but that would require that this information will always be
>>> known for a "default" monitoring setup. While this may be true for AMD it is not obvious
>>> to me that this is universally true. Once this file exists in this form resctrl will always
>>> be required to provide data for the event configuration and it is not clear to me that
>>> this can always be guaranteed.
>> Yea. It is not true universally true. I don't know what these values are for Intel and ARM.
>>
>>>>> 2) Can it be guaranteed that the MBM events will monitor the default
>>>>> assignable counter memory transactions when in "default" mode? It has
>>>>> never been possible to query which memory transactions are monitored by
>>>>> the default X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_TOTAL and X86_FEATURE_CQM_MBM_LOCAL features
>>>>> so this seems to use one feature to deduce capabilities or another?
>>>> So, initialize both total and local event configuration to default values when switched to "default mode"?
>>>>
>>>> Something like this?
>>>>
>>>> mon_event_all[QOS_L3_MBM_TOTAL_EVENT_ID].evt_cfg = r->mon.mbm_cfg_mask;
>>>>
>>>> mon_event_all[QOS_L3_MBM_LOCAL_EVENT_ID].evt_cfg = READS_TO_LOCAL_MEM | READS_TO_LOCAL_S_MEM | NON_TEMP_WRITE_TO_LOCAL_MEM;
>>>>
>>>> We are already doing that right (in patch 32)?
>>> Yes, but it creates this strange dependency where the "default" monitoring mode
>>> (that has been supported long before configurable events and assignable counters came
>>> along) requires support of "assignable counter mode".
>>>
>>> Consider it from another view, if resctrl wants to make event configuration available
>>> for the "default" mode then the "event_filter" file could always be visible when MBM
>>> local/total is supported to give users insight into what is monitored, whether
>>> assignable counters are supported or not. This is not possible on systems that do
>>> not support ABMC though, right?
>> That is correct. With BMEC, each domain can have its own settings. So, printing the default will not be accurate.
>>
>> What options do we have here.
>>
>> How about adding the check if (resctrl_arch_mbm_cntr_assign_enabled())? Only print the values when ABMC is supported else print information in "last_cmd_status".
>>
> Did you perhaps intend to write "Only print the values when ABMC is *enabled* else print
> information in "last_cmd_status".? If this is what you actually meant then I agree. I think
> doing so places clear boundary on this feature that gives us more options/flexibility for
> future changes.
Yes. That is what I meant. We have same check in event_filer_write().
Will add the same check in event_filter_show().
Thanks
Babu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-08 18:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-25 18:29 [PATCH v16 00/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 01/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Consolidate monitor event descriptions Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-30 20:23 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 02/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Replace architecture event enabled checks Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 03/34] x86/resctrl: Remove 'rdt_mon_features' global variable Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 04/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Prepare for more monitor events Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 05/34] x86/cpufeatures: Add support for Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:47 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 06/34] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 07/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Consolidate monitoring related data from rdt_resource Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 08/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:49 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-06 21:04 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 09/34] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable AMD ABMC feature Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 10/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display monitoring modes Babu Moger
2025-08-06 21:02 ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-06 21:30 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 11/34] fs/resctrl: Add resctrl file to display number of assignable counters Babu Moger
2025-08-06 21:12 ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-06 21:31 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 12/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce mbm_cntr_cfg to track assignable counters per domain Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 13/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of free MBM counters Babu Moger
2025-08-06 21:19 ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-06 21:31 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-06 22:04 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 14/34] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 15/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce event configuration field in struct mon_evt Babu Moger
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 16/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_config_cntr() to assign a counter with ABMC Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:50 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 17/34] fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to assign MBM events Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:52 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-07 18:29 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 18/34] fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassign " Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:53 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-07 18:33 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 19/34] fs/resctrl: Pass struct rdtgroup instead of individual members Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:54 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 20/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce counter ID read, reset calls in mbm_event mode Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:59 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-07 19:59 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 21/34] x86/resctrl: Refactor resctrl_arch_rmid_read() Babu Moger
2025-07-30 19:59 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 22/34] x86/resctrl: Implement resctrl_arch_reset_cntr() and resctrl_arch_cntr_read() Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 2:05 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 23/34] fs/resctrl: Support counter read/reset with mbm_event assignment mode Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 2:20 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 24/34] fs/resctrl: Add definitions for MBM event configuration Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 2:24 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 25/34] fs/resctrl: Add event configuration directory under info/L3_MON/ Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:04 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 13:56 ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-08 15:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 17:47 ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-08 18:23 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 18:48 ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2025-08-08 20:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 26/34] fs/resctrl: Provide interface to update the event configurations Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 18:27 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 27/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce mbm_assign_on_mkdir to enable assignments on mkdir Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:08 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 20:29 ` Moger, Babu
2025-08-08 21:00 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-08 21:10 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 28/34] fs/resctrl: Auto assign counters on mkdir and clean up on group removal Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:08 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-11 23:39 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 29/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce mbm_L3_assignments to list assignments in a group Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-11 23:42 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 30/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce the interface to modify " Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-11 23:51 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 31/34] fs/resctrl: Disable BMEC event configuration when mbm_event mode is enabled Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:11 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-12 19:16 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 32/34] fs/resctrl: Introduce the interface to switch between monitor modes Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:11 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-12 19:18 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 33/34] x86/resctrl: Configure mbm_event mode if supported Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:11 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-12 19:21 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-25 18:29 ` [PATCH v16 34/34] MAINTAINERS: resctrl: add myself as reviewer Babu Moger
2025-07-30 20:14 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-08-12 19:23 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-30 19:47 ` [PATCH v16 00/34] x86,fs/resctrl: Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Reinette Chatre
2025-07-30 23:31 ` Moger, Babu
2025-07-30 23:57 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-31 14:17 ` Moger, Babu
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