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From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Tobias Huschle <huschle@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri@intel.com>,
	"Ravi V . Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>,
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch v3 1/6] sched/fair: Determine active load balance for SMT sched groups
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:29:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9de4ecabf658458f3f45f6970707a0b1458c6394.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3a1621eae04f7671b2b430352b42a27@linux.ibm.com>


> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 87317634fab2..f636d6c09dc6 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -8279,6 +8279,11 @@ enum group_type {
> >  	 * more powerful CPU.
> >  	 */
> >  	group_misfit_task,
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Balance SMT group that's fully busy. Can benefit from migration
> > +	 * a task on SMT with busy sibling to another CPU on idle core.
> > +	 */
> > +	group_smt_balance,
> 
> Would it make sense to move smt_balance?, s.t. we get:
> 
> group_has_spare < group_smt_balance < group_fully_busy
> 
> Conceptually I would be more intuitive to me like this as the
> smt_balance groups are more busy than has_spare ones, but less busy
> then fully_busy ones.
> 
>  From a functional perspective I could also see some impact when
> update_sd_pick_busiest compares the group types. In that case we
> would remove tasks from fully busy groups before moving them
> from smt_balance groups. Not sure which way would be to prefer
> to increase overall throughput.
> 
> Since smt_balance is only selected if the group has SMT, this
> should still not pull the last task off of a non-SMT CPU.
> 
> 

I think you have similar concerns as Shrikanth on this patch.
Can you see if my fix to update_sd_pick_busiest() in my reply
to Shrikanth addresses what you have in mind.

Tim

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-14 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-07 22:56 [Patch v3 0/6] Enable Cluster Scheduling for x86 Hybrid CPUs Tim Chen
2023-07-07 22:57 ` [Patch v3 1/6] sched/fair: Determine active load balance for SMT sched groups Tim Chen
2023-07-14 13:06   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-07-14 23:05     ` Tim Chen
2023-07-15 18:25       ` Tim Chen
2023-07-16 19:36       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-07-17 11:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-17 12:18           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-07-17 13:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-17 14:58               ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Add SMT4 group_smt_balance handling Shrikanth Hegde
2023-07-27  3:11                 ` Tim Chen
2023-07-27 13:32                   ` Tim Chen
2023-08-07  9:36                     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-08-21 19:19                       ` Tim Chen
2023-09-05  8:03                         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-09-05  9:49                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-05 18:37                           ` Tim Chen
2023-09-06  9:29                             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-09-06 15:42                               ` Tim Chen
2023-09-07  8:58                             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-09-07 17:42                               ` Tim Chen
2023-09-12 10:29                                 ` [tip: sched/urgent] sched/fair: Fix " tip-bot2 for Tim Chen
2023-09-13 13:11                                 ` tip-bot2 for Tim Chen
2023-09-05 10:38                         ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Add " Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-05 10:41                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-05 17:54                       ` Tim Chen
2023-09-06  8:23                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-06 15:45                           ` Tim Chen
2023-07-18  6:07       ` [Patch v3 1/6] sched/fair: Determine active load balance for SMT sched groups Tobias Huschle
2023-07-18 14:52         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-07-19  8:14           ` Tobias Huschle
2023-07-14 14:53   ` Tobias Huschle
2023-07-14 23:29     ` Tim Chen [this message]
2023-07-07 22:57 ` [Patch v3 2/6] sched/topology: Record number of cores in sched group Tim Chen
2023-07-10 20:33   ` Valentin Schneider
2023-07-10 22:13     ` Tim Chen
2023-07-12  9:27       ` Valentin Schneider
2023-07-10 22:40   ` Tim Chen
2023-07-11 11:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-11 16:32       ` Tim Chen
2023-07-07 22:57 ` [Patch v3 3/6] sched/fair: Implement prefer sibling imbalance calculation between asymmetric groups Tim Chen
2023-07-14 13:14   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-07-14 14:22     ` Tobias Huschle
2023-07-14 23:35       ` Tim Chen
2023-07-14 20:44     ` Tim Chen
2023-07-14 23:23       ` Tim Chen
2023-07-15  0:11     ` Tim Chen
2023-07-07 22:57 ` [Patch v3 4/6] sched/fair: Consider the idle state of the whole core for load balance Tim Chen
2023-07-14 13:02   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2023-07-14 22:16     ` Tim Chen
2023-07-07 22:57 ` [Patch v3 5/6] sched/x86: Add cluster topology to hybrid CPU Tim Chen
2023-07-08 12:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-10 16:13     ` Tim Chen
2023-07-07 22:57 ` [Patch v3 6/6] sched/debug: Dump domains' sched group flags Tim Chen
2023-07-10 20:33   ` Valentin Schneider

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